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Global Warming?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    Global Warming?

    ABC listed global warming as the greates threat to human life . . . and they said that scientists have been paid to lie and say that global warming was not caused by oil and gas . . . '

    (1) Is Global Warming a greater and more present danger to Earth than God and His Revelation?

    (2) Can man prevent God's prophecy?
     
  2. billwald

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    1. Yes, if true then more of a threat.

    2. Yes, because God hasn't given us a hard date.
     
  3. KenH

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    Global warming, if it is happening, is a natural phenomenon. There is nothing that man can do to stop it.
     
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    You are right. Only God controls nature. He could stop it, if it is happening, if He desires. Or it could be part of His plan. Or, it might be part of the natural ebb and flow in the patterns of climate and weather.

    I'm not saying we need not use good sense and make good use of our resources, but we do know the old world will end . . .
     
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    Rippon Well-Known Member

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    I Believe In Global Burning

    In 2 Peter 3:7 it says that the heavens and the earth are by the same word [ the word of God , vs. 5 ] stored up for burning , and reserved for the day of judgment and the destruction of godless people .

    In verse 10: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief . Then with a tremendous roar the heavens will pass away , the elements will be dissolved with fire , and the earth and the works in it will be burned up .


    ( All Bible references are from the MLB )
     
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    Baseball has a bible ?

    [covers head & ducks]
     
  7. StraightAndNarrow

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    There is plenty of scientific evidence that global warming is a result of man's activities on this earth. Of course there are things we can do about it. Do you think that man could trash God's creation indefinitely without suffering any consequesnce?
     
  8. The Galatian

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    We don't yet know for sure how much (if any) is a natural cycle, and how much is man-induced. We do know that the current warming correlates nicely over several hundred years with the amount of man-produced CO2 in the atmosphere.

    The evidence all points one way, although I will reserve judgement on whether or not we can say that man is soley responsible for it.
     
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    And there is plenty of scientific evidence that it's not.

    Therein lies the problem. Nothing even remotely resembling a concensus amongst those scientists qualified in the field of climatology.
     
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    Speaking of 'scientific' evidence, I am told that Mt St. Helen's eruption caused more 'global warming' type gases to enter the atmosphere than the entire worldwide carbon emissions of the twentieth century.

    If true, then I HIGHLY doubt that global warming is our fault since there have been numerous other volcanic eruptions since then.
     
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    Mt St. helen's eruption has caused more carbon gases to enter the atmosphere than all of mankind in the 20th century.

    And there have been numerous other volcanoes erupt since then.

    I highly doubt global warming is our fault.

    I go with God's sovereignity and His bringing to pass prophecy in our time.

    (OOPS!) Sorry about the double post.
     
  12. billwald

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    If there has been a climate change that will cjange rain patterns and will raise the sea level then we need to write off New Orleans and all other coastal areas and build water storage facilities where possible and useful.
     
  13. El_Guero

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    Now that is thinking . . .
     
  14. KenH

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    The only so-called "scientific" evidence is promoted by folks who are anti-capitalism and want more government control over the economy and people's personal lives.
     
  15. KenH

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    Actually, it doesn't. At least not the real evidence.
     
  16. El_Guero

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    Jim

    I wondered alot about this during the show.

    I do believe that our polution has a negative affect on the environment.

    But, Karakatowa was bigger than our biggest nukes. And that volcano caused a change in global climate. I have to wonder if God is getting creation ready for the end - and mankind is still focused on us and not on Him?

    Wayne

     
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    If global warming can only be caused by modern human activity, what caused the warming that ended the Ice Age? (There is one in both the Creation/ Flood and Evolution models, only the theorized length differs, so there's no escape from this question on those grounds.)
     
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    Hmm... that seems like an outrageous exaggeration. Do you have any data to support it?

    Incredulity is not an argument. The data are quite clear. It's getting warmer, and it's correlated strongly with an increase in CO2 emissions as the result of human activity. Correlation is not necessarily causation, but all the evidence so far points in that direction.

    In the end, all things serve His will. But you are confusing final and efficient causes.
     
  19. Walguy

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    Sure, just like to an evolutionist all the evidence points to evolution - because they refuse to look at all the evidence that points AWAY from evolution. To say that ALL the evidence so far supports causation in global warming is a much more outrageous statement than anything you have criticized.
    Btw, I notice you failed to address my question about how the warming that ended the Ice Age was able to happen without humans producing modern CO2 emissions. Care to address that one, or is this just another instance of someone who wants to believe it's all humanity's fault ignoring evidence he doesn't like and can't answer?
     
  20. The Galatian

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    Sure, just like to a realist, all the evidence points to there being no tooth fairy - because they refuse to look at all the evidence that points to a tooth fairy. The key is evidence. There is no evidence that indicates any other source of the additional CO2 being anything but human activity.

    I gather you don't have any evidence for the Mt. St. Helens CO2 claim. My guess is it's a version of the thing Ronald Reagan did blaming volcanoes and trees for air pollution.

     
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