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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by James Donovan, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. James Donovan

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    In conversations with Baptists of many persuasions I find a growing neglect or even rejection of Dispensationalism. Having been trained in a Baptist school in such and more solid than ever in those convictions 45 years later I can't help but think of at least a few reasons why. Your thoughts?
     
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    Dispensationalists get a lot of things wrong - but taking the Bible literally is not one of them.
     
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    I'll give this a shot.

    Firstly, it lacks biblical support, and backing from serious biblical scholars, and secondly, we don't understand the Bible by holding it in one hand and the New York Times in the other.
     
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    The entire faculty of Dallas Seminary are not serious biblical scholars? The entire faculty at Central Baptist Seminary are not serious biblical scholars? The entire faculty at Detroit Baptist Seminary are not serious biblical scholars. And on and on and on?
     
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    What does the NYT have to do with dispensationalism? You do know what dispensationalism, don't you?
     
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    Correct. Arminianism and Dispensationalism go together like PB&J (with few exceptions) and I don't think any Arminians are serious biblical scholars (again, with few exceptions)
     
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    Yeah. That was weak at best
     
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    Yes. This from a Reformed Calvinist Amillennial whose hallmark is literal grammatical hermeneutic.
     
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    You open the Bible. A ruined creation restored over 6 days time. A qualified man in charge of that creation. A 7th day of glory and rest. A bride ruling with that man. But today we have "kingdom now" teaching. The natural result of 40 years of Lordship theology. And now this Lordship mess is so close to Reformed doctrine that it systematically swallows up every group in sight. But The 7th day is coming. It is not here yet. Israel must repent before that day but Israel is explained away by these Augustian thinkers. But He is now bringing many sons to glory through suffering. Others will have their talent taken and suffer for their carelessness. The qualified man will return and reign. The bride along with Him. And the tares that have spread grievous error that the future kingdom is just a spiritual thing, something in your heart, and as a result have caused many to stumble will be recompensed in that day.
     
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    You might want to do your homework regarding the Soteriology of those schools.
     
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    The Gap Theory is impossible according to Hebrew grammar.
     
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    Many would disagree. It is the only explanation for Lucifer as the provincial ruler of the creation. God puts a Son in charge of His realms. Lucifer ruled over the heavens and earth and was replaced by another Son in the 6 days of restoration. Adam was disqualified. And another man was sent. He was not ruined by the current ruler. The temptation was to disqualify Jesus as a ruler not to prove whether or not He could sin. On the 7th day that ruler will remove Satan from his heavenly government and install new rulers whose citizenship is there and who have qualified in this age by being faithful while He is away.
     
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    None that understand Hebrew grammar. The waw disjunctive makes it impossible.
     
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    I was including eschatology in my coment, as the OP had mentioned Amillennialism in a very negative light, so I assumed he was pre-mil, as almost all dispensationalist are, and that view requires not only a Bible but a newspaper to arrive at the meaning of the text. Not to mention, a certain fictional series by Tim LaHaye. . .
     
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    Are you saying that DTS, in general, holds to a Calvinistic soteriology? I did attend the school, but I have heard much about it, and I've never heard it mentioned in that manner.

    List of Calvinist educational institutions in North America - Wikipedia
     
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    Like who?
     
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    I'll be more than happy to discuss any Eschatological issue you see as erroneous in Dispensational Theology.


    God bless.
     
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    Okay, so you don't understand dispensationalism. That explains a lot.
     
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    Not as much as you do, apparently. I know far more about the authentic than the contrived.
     
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