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GOP dread: Democrats could hit 60 Senate seats

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    You know the GOP is in serious trouble when Al Franken could win in Minnesota, Elizabeth Dole could lose in North Carolina, and the Republicans are hoping to get Joe Lieberman to join them.


    GOP dread: Dems could hit 60 Senate seats
    Jim VandeHei, Mike Allen
    Sat Oct 4, 6:18 PM ET

    The possibility that Democrats will build a muscular, 60-seat Senate majority is looking increasing plausible, with new polls showing a powerful surge for the party’s candidates in Minnesota, Kentucky and other states.

    A poll out Friday shows Sen. Norm Coleman could now easily lose his Minnesota seat to comedian-turned-candidate Al Franken. A Colorado race that initially looked like a nail-biter has now broken decisively for the Democrats. A top official in the McCain camp told us Sen. Elizabeth Dole is virtually certain to lose in conservative North Carolina.

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has seen his race tighten dangerously close over the past week — and Democrats are considering moving more money into the state very soon. And there is even talk that Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss is beatable in conservative Georgia after backing the economic bailout package opposed by many voters.

    “Before the economic crisis, we had a number of races moving our way,” said Matthew Miller, communications director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. “But now we’re seeing Republican numbers plummet.” GOP officials largely agree.

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    Top Republicans say they have no hope for Dole in North Carolina. “There’s no point in even counting the votes,” said a top McCain official.

    Republicans said they hope to make up for one loss by persuading Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) to caucus with them. He has campaigned vigorously for McCain, and Democratic Party leaders have vowed to punish him.

    One indication of the Republicans’ mood: They’re already looking past this grim election season.

    “2010 looks pretty good for us to pick up three or four or five seats pretty easily,” the McCain official said.

    - rest at http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081004/pl_politico/14280
     
    #1 KenH, Oct 5, 2008
  2. Deacon

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    Truly I think it should be a Democratic dread.
    No one to blame but themselves.

    Democratic President and Congress - Year 1
    Blame Bush
    Increase taxes on the rich (those earning more than 75K)

    Democratic President and Congress - Year 2
    More talk about Bush
    Increase taxes on the rich (those earning more than 60K)
    Talk about reforming social security (tax the rich, those that have saved for their retirement)

    Democratic President and Congress - Year 3
    Blame Bush for the deepening resession
    Increase taxes on the rich (those earning more than 50K) - It's patriotic afterall!

    Democratic President and Congress - Year 4
    Blame the Republicans for obstructing Democratic progress
    Increase taxes on the rich (those earning more than 40K)

    Republican President and Congress - Year 1

    Rob
     
    #2 Deacon, Oct 5, 2008
  3. Major B

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    If Obama wins with a 60 vote senate, we will have a rough time for two years. By that point, KenH will be a ragins anti-O-BA-MA fanatic. Remember, what gave the GOP the congressional majority was the leadership of Newt and the policies of Bill and Hill.
     
    #3 Major B, Oct 5, 2008
  4. KenH

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    The older I get and as I start eyeing retirement I am becoming more liberal and more Democratic. That's makes it rather hard for me to vote Republican.
     
    #4 KenH, Oct 5, 2008
  5. LeBuick

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    You forgot about giving millions health care and saving the nations moral conscience from itself. :thumbs:
     
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  6. Major B

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    I don't care what kind of bogus figures O-BA-MA puts out, government healthcare will break the bank (if it ain't broke already), and will begin an entitlement program that will far exceed Social Security and Medicare. Since we are not even close to paying for those programs, this will be it.

    Moral conscience? The only way this nation's moral conscience can ever be restored is when pre-born children are safe and abortionists are hunted.
     
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  7. LeBuick

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    Two things, Moral conscious was a joke and according to factcheck.org McCain's plan will cost nearly as much as Obama but will cover considerably less people. So with either candidate the bank will be broken (if it ain't broke already).

    Also, despite the conservatives popular opinion, Obama isn't proposing a government health plan.

     
    #7 LeBuick, Oct 5, 2008
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    Senility is what we usually call it. It doesn't make it hard to vote Republican. It makes it hard to think straight. As a retiree, the Dems will be taking more of your money that you will need to live on. Retirees live to a large degree on cap gains. You might enjoy hurting yourself, but please don't force it on the rest of us. If you think you should pay more taxes, then by all means just volunteer. Don't vote to make it mandatory. And don't continue to lose your mind.
     
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  9. KenH

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    My wife and I will not be. There is enough of my parents in me not to be taking much in the way of chances on stocks when I am retired or nearing retirement.
     
    #9 KenH, Oct 5, 2008
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    Amen, Amen, AMEN !!!!!!!!!!
     
    #10 Bro. Curtis, Oct 5, 2008
  11. LeBuick

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    Not unless he retires making more than $250K/yr...

    And around here, retiree's live on SS which doesn't get capital gains...
     
    #11 LeBuick, Oct 5, 2008
  12. rbell

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    Keep in mind, folks, the universal principle of Government-funded freebies:

    They ain't.


    And they always end up costing more than anyone ever thought they would.

    So, just remember...when we make the "evil rich" pay their "fair share" (I guess we'll all go and get jobs from poor people...), eventually it won't be enough, and we'll be forced to do one of two things:
    1. Expand the revenue base (redefine who is "rich.")
    2. Cut services (that means the ruling party loses votes they bought. That doesn't happen anymore; see #1 for the backup plan).

    An aside: If Minnesotans vote in Al Franken, I would immediately ask my congressman to place military troops on the border, seal off the state, and force Canada to take it. That much stupidity should be quarantined.
     
    #12 rbell, Oct 6, 2008
  13. Major B

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    Don't worry--O-BA-MA will fix that. By 2011 at the latest, you will be a raging ultra-right loonie. Ya think that you are gonna retire on SS on time? How easy it would be to declare an emergency and slide your SS retirement up a couple more years.
     
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  14. Major B

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    Hidden taxes, my friend, hidden taxes. Every time I call my friend who repairs appliances, whose family owned business makes around 300K a year, I will be paying his taxes.

    Every time someone gets machine work done at Mayfield Machine and Tool, they will be paying his taxes. Every field worker that does not get brought up to work the fields will be paying my farmer friends' tax increases.

    Every time you rent from my friend with the U-Haul business, you will be paying his taxes. Every time you pay your increased monthly rent on the little rental houses that Hal and Phil, and so on rent out, you will be paying their increased taxes. Every month of storage rent paid will be paying ....

    I hope you get the picture. I don't care who you are, you will be paying a highly regressive tax, and the burden will fall hardest on those least able to pay it.
     
    #14 Major B, Oct 6, 2008
  15. Andy T.

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    Yes, it appears to be pretty universal that people who vote liberal do so out of self-interest.
     
    #15 Andy T., Oct 6, 2008
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