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Gospel Liberty

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Aaron, Dec 21, 2006.

  1. Aaron

    Aaron Member

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    I started a thread with a title of a Bob Rivers parody of "Walkin' in a Winter Wonderland," and it was deleted post haste.

    I've noticed that those who say women have Gospel liberty to wear anything they want, won't say that men have that same liberty. Anyone else notice that? I mean, what do we really think of men who do what is in the afore-mentioned song title?

    (I should mention that women in pants is not an issue with me, as all the girls in my household do so regularly. But, Bobbed Hair, Bossy Wives and Women Preachers....Look out!)
     
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  2. Allan

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    Aaron, we may disagree on somethings but from what I see here - AMEN!
     
  3. Joseph_Botwinick

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    aHonest question: What is bobbed hair?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I agree about "bossy wives." It is so dishonoring to God when women act like that.
     
  6. menageriekeeper

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    Joseph, how young are you? :D

    Bobbed hair is a term related to how the flappers of the twenties cut their hair. It was considered scandelous by some and usually came alongside other behaviors not considered "Christian" at the time.

    http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/imagesJC/PhotoLadies/twbow1b.jpg

    This is an example of the actual hairstyle, but a google search will get you plenty of pics of flappers and those pics speak for themselves as to the lifestyle these girls were involved in. There really is nothing new under the sun.

    And you may NOT ask me how old I am that I know these things. :D I'm simply well read. (that's my story and I'm sticking to it! :laugh: )
     
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    I have got to agree with Aaron here. Why would a lady want to make herself look that ugly with that hairstyle. I don't like it.

    MK,

    I will be 35 in a few weeks. I have not heard of this style before.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Are we now saying certain hairstyles are sinful? :rolleyes: Ugly maybe, but sinful?
     
  9. Joseph_Botwinick

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    IMO, it is extremely ugly, but that does not make it sinful.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I tend to fall on the old-fashioned side of these questions about clothing and music (CCM) etc. But I believe that a Christian's standards should arise from their own devotion to God and understanding of the Word.

    But here is my question - why, oh why, would any Christian use "liberty" as a justification for their love for the world? In other words, why do so many Christians see "pushing the limit" toward the world as something to be desired?

    Take for example the issue of popular fashion in clothing. Drooping pants on boys and low cut jeans for girls (bend over and your secret is out!). Why would a Christian want to justify such clothing? And music - why do we want our music to sound like a Pop radio station?

    If I have a desire to be Holy, I should seek the center where God is, and stay away from the edges. What is so spiritual these days about staying as close to the edge as you can without actual going over it? All in the name of "liberty".
     
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    Hey now! I actually have this book! :tongue3:
     
  12. menageriekeeper

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    LOL, Pamela, I think there may be a copy around here somewhere!

    Joseph, I was only joking about your age. Bobbed hair is a woman thing and not something a man would necessarily be knowledgable about. You really aren't that much younger than I (not that I'm telling. :D )

    Soul Liberty=Soul Responsiblity

    If we look at it that way, we get a different perspective. What manner of dress, gentlemen, do you want to be responsible to answer to God for?
     
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    As Christians, why would we ever sacrifice "holiness" (separatness from sin) on the altar of "liberty?"

    I believe it was Chaplain Peter Marshall (US Senate of yesteryear) who said, "freedom is not the right to do what one pleases, but the opportunity to please to do what is right."

    Just my thoughts,

    Max
     
  14. Aaron

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    The allusion to the John R. Rice work was semi-joking and not my point at all. My point was the double standard we appear to be applying when speaking of Gospel liberty concerning clothing.

    The song title I was referring to in the OP was...well, I'm just going to whisper it so the moderators won't hear. Lean in real close...Walkin' 'Round in Women's Underwear.

    When I say "transvestite," is the image in your mind a woman in pants or a man in a dress? I'll bet most of you thought of a man in a dress. Now why is it we can insist that women have Gospel liberty to wear trousers, but men don't have liberty to wear skirts?
     
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    Don we now our gay apparel...fa la la la la... la la.. la... la
     
  16. Aaron

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    Are you being legalistic?
     
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    Actually, when I think of transvestite, the image that comes to me is not simply a man wearing a dress. Every man who wears a kilt is not a transvestite.

    Transvestite brings to mind a man who has gone out of his way to appear as a woman, false cups, make up, shaved legs and a wig! It goes far beyond immodest dress.

    Now a man in a kilt is certainly wearing a dress, but his intention is not to appear feminine. Whether or not he is immodest depends on things better left undiscussed in mixed company. :D But, if a man wants to wear one, who am I to argue?
     
  18. Amy.G

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    Are speaking to me?
    Goodness, no. I'm not legalistic. This has just been such a volitile subject this week I was just injecting a little humor. Hope I didn't offend anybody. :)
     
  19. menageriekeeper

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    Don't worry Amy, some people have nooo sense of humor. I got your joke. :laugh:
     
  20. Amy.G

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    Thank you :wavey:
     
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