Government crackdown on garage sales

[rbell]

http://www.kansascity.com/444/story/1395184.html

A bored government is a dangerous government.

Let's not bother with terrorists. The real danger is rogue garage sales.

 

[Revmitchell]

Libbies do not know what to do without government. Sad

 

[Johnv]

Not sure what the problem is. The law makes it illegal to resell dangerous recalled products. It's already illegal to sell them first hand. Why should it be legal to resell them?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Not sure what the problem is. The law makes it illegal to resell dangerous recalled products. It's already illegal to sell them first hand. Why should it be legal to resell them?

It isn't up to the government to tell us what is good for us.

 

[Johnv]

It isn't up to the government to tell us what is good for us.

So, you're against the Consumer Products Safety Commission regulating product safety in general, or just the sale of second hand items?

 

[Salty]

Not sure what the problem is. The law makes it illegal to resell dangerous recalled products. It's already illegal to sell them first hand. Why should it be legal to resell them?

It was not illegal to sell them brand new - because that was before recall notice was mandated.

As for selling at a garage sale - often, these recalls are more of a better-safe-than sorry attitude.

For the most party, totally unneeded law.

 

[Johnv]

It was not illegal to sell them brand new - because that was before recall notice was mandated.

And after a recall is issued, it is then illegal to sell them. Why, then, should it be legal to resell them?

As for selling at a garage sale - often, these recalls are more of a better-safe-than sorry attitude.

Actually, this only covers items considered dangerous recalled products (most recalled products do not fall under this category, hence their sale is not restricted).

 

[carpro]

Another example of government insanity.

While the intent may be good, it's unenforceable on anything resembling an equal basis...

Unless another several hundred thousand federal employees are hired for enforcement purposes.

Trying to make criminals out of ordinary citizens without any knowledge they may be breaking an obscure government regulation is typical of totalitarian regimes.

 

[Revmitchell]

The end result will be that people will be afraid to have garage sales. I wonder how many companies are behind this legislation?

 

[Johnv]

The end result will be that people will be afraid to have garage sales.

Which begs the question, should a person holding the garage sale be responsible for selling something that has been determined to be a dangerous product?

But that's not really what the OP is about. The OP is actually about selling of products by second hand retail stores. That begs the question, should a retail store selling second hand items be responsible for selling something that has been determined to be a dangerous product?

 

[Revmitchell]

Yes they should be able to.

 

[Salty]

From the link article:
The crackdown affects sellers ranging from major thrift-store operators such as Goodwill and the Salvation Army to everyday Americans cleaning out their attics for yard sales, church bazaars or - increasingly - digital hawking on eBay, Craigslist and other Web sites.

The article did mention the major enforcement will be on second hand stores, but you may get some young whipper-snapper looking for a promotion who will make it an "off-duty" presence at weekend garage sales.

 

[Revmitchell]

Peopel need to do their own homework and research the recalls and safety issues and quit relying on government to do everything for them. How lazy

 

[Johnv]

Yes they should be able to.

That's where the divergence in opinion lies. If one believes that a second hand retailer should be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will oppose the plan.

If, OTOH, one believes that second hand retailers should not be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will support the plan.

The article did mention the major enforcement will be on second hand stores, but you may get some young whipper-snapper looking for a promotion who will make it an "off-duty" presence at weekend garage sales.

Good point. I suspect, however, that it will be similar to the way gambling is enforced. Gambling is illegal in most areas, but rarely does anyone get prosecuted for penny poker. Likewise, I suspect that the average person holding a garage sale to empty out their garage won't be a matter of enforcement, though the occaisional person who uses a garage sale as a way to sell retail goods might be.

 

[Revmitchell]

That's where the divergence in opinion lies. If one believes that a second hand retailer should be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will oppose the plan.

If, OTOH, one believes that second hand retailers should not be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will support the plan.

Did you know that most leaves on trees are green except in the fall a great many leaves will turn colors such as yellow, brown, and orange. Although some trees such as Pine trees, mostly found in southern regions, are known as evergreens because they keep their green color year round.

 

[carpro]

That's where the divergence in opinion lies. If one believes that a second hand retailer should be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will oppose the plan.

If, OTOH, one believes that second hand retailers should not be allowed to sell products that have been determined to be dangerous, then it stands to reason that one will support the plan.

Simplistic and untrue.

There will be those that oppose the plan because it is not explicit enough. They will not want the government snooping around their garage sales, but don't have a problem with local authorities regulation of businesses.

 

[rdwhite]

Did you know that most leaves on trees are green except in the fall a great many leaves will turn colors such as yellow, brown, and orange. Although some trees such as Pine trees, mostly found in southern regions, are known as evergreens because they keep their green color year round.

Yes, in our area we have mainly deciduous varieties, but there are however a few conifers.

 

[carpro]

Breaking News - North Pole, Antarctica

In a surprise dawn raid, Federal agents raided Santa Claus' hideout seeking contraband toys.

Many elves were immolated in the ensuing mayhem and others were detained after it was found that they lacked toymaker licenses. Mr. Claus, using the alias "Kris Kringle", was issued a citation for traveling too great a distance in too short a time in his unregistered sled. The sled was driven by reindeer in violation of accepted emissions standards. The reindeer were also found to be in violation of local zoning laws prohibiting livestock, and were put down. Mr. Claus was charged with animal abuse, having failed to treat one reindeer, which had an abnormal, glowing proboscous.

Finally, Mr. Claus had a very large accumulation of toys and he could not coherently explan of his income. Suspected to be stolen goods, the stash was destroyed.

Mr. Claus was also charged with sex offenses after a large amount of correspondence with children was discovered. Federal agents also found Frosty the Snowman at the Claus residence, and his corn-cob pipe was seized as suspected drug paraphenlia as it is commonly used used to smoke black tar heroine.

According to Lt. Keystone who commanded the raid, "All we're trying to do is make America safer. Think of the children".

 

[Johnv]

:wavey:Wow, they managed to move the North Pole to Antartica. That's amazing!!

There will be those that oppose the plan because it is not explicit enough. They will not want the government snooping around their garage sales, but don't have a problem with local authorities regulation of businesses.

You make a good point. I am one that prefers that this type of law be enforced by local enforcement over federal enforcement.

 

[Salty]

Mr. Clause was also cited for petty theft of milk & cookies, disturbing the peace when he "arose such a clatter" illegal entry "Down the chimney ",. He also wearing forbidden "fur, from his head to his foot", The worst part is that he offended Jewish and Muslim residents by saying
"Happy Christmas to all,"

The full statement is in this link: