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Graham-Cassidy Bill

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  1. carpro

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    Graham-Cassidy health care bill to replace ObamaCare: What is it


    President Trump on Wednesday offered his support of Senate Republicans’ latest effort to replace the Affordable Care Act.

    Trump expressed his approval of the Graham-Cassidy Bill – put forth by Sens. Lindsey Graham, S.C., and Bill Cassidy, La. – Wednesday, even going so far as to criticize the lone Republican senator who already opposed it.


    What does the legislation do?

    The Graham-Cassidy legislation would implement a block grant program that gives funding to states, which would then have a wide leeway on how that money is spent.

    “We’ll allow [the] states to come up with solutions to help sick people, not just some bureaucrat in Washington,” Graham told Fox News.

    “We’ll eliminate the individual mandate, the heart and soul of ObamaCare, that is gone at the federal level. We take the money and send it back to the states in a block grant formula where they can administer health care,” Graham added.
     
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    Okay, just where is this constitutional mandate for the Federal government involvement in healthcare Sen. Graham?

    Hey, i have an idea. Why don't you guys just stick with the enumerated powers granted to you by the Constitution and leave things like healthcare to the individual states as per the 10th Amendment?
     
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    Lincoln ripped the 10th out of The Constitution.
     
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    Yep. And Teddy Roosevelt set fire to the paper.
     
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    Let me get this straight - Citizens are forced to send money to DC- then the Feds pay someone to send the money to the individual State/Commonwealth.

    Why not just let the State/Commonwealth collect the money and keep Federal Govt workers out of it.
     
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    Because the big government Congress critters have made it their mission in life to control every facet of life down to the local level. That is why our tax system will never change - it's called "central control" or as Frank Zappa once said " the central scrutinizer".
     
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    Same thing with the Education budge - among others...
     
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    Agreed, BUT, one step at a time. Lets not be Rand Paul and let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
     
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    This is the best bill over this, getting rid of all the Obamacare mandates and just giving off block grants to the states. Rand is actually correct that GC does leave "too much" of Obamacare intact but it gets rid of the worst of it and leaves a framework for further improvements. The only thing I don't like about it so far is the sweetener they have offered to AK (for Princess Lisa's support) and HI (for smoke), this is they way they traded horses for Obamacare.
     
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    Yep, rewarding bad behavior, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
     
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    Graham-Cassidy health care bill to replace ObamaCare: What is it


    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., finally squashed any hope that he could help push through Senate Republicans' last-ditch effort to repeal ObamaCare.

    McCain said he couldn't "in good conscience" vote for the Graham-Cassidy bill, put forth by Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
     
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    And there he goes again, that little weasel McCain. Face it, the Republicans are terrible at the political game. If the tables were reversed, all the Democrats would be on board and Obamacare would get repealed.
     
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    Graham-Cassidy wants to get rid of Obamacare by turning over health insurance to state control in the form of block grants. States would receive a chunk of money to do with it as they see fit to customize health insurance legislation to fit the needs of their citizens.

    Sounds like a good idea, in that it would get rid of Obamacare (if individual states wanted to) and it seems more in line with the 10th amendment and the Constitution in general.

    But Sen. John Kennedy R-La wants to put a condition on the states' rights to run their own health insurance program--no single payer system allowed. I guess his attitude is that the 10th amendment is OK so long as states do what he thinks is right.
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    Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., said he wants to ban states from setting up a government-run healthcare system in a GOP bill to overhaul Obamacare that would allow states to set up their healthcare systems.

    "I don't think states should have the authority to take money from the American taxpayer and set up a single-payer system," Kennedy said.

    GOP senator wants to block states from setting up their own single-payer systems


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    Fully agree!!!
     
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    So the 10th Amendment and states' rights is well and good unless it goes against your particular political beliefs?

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    The bad news here is that Rhinos Paul and Mcain have already said will vote it down
     
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    McCain is all about McCain. Always has been. He loves being a deal breaker, a so called maverick. Mostly he just loves being the center of attention.

    An he hates Trump. Loves seeing that his campaign promise is not kept.
     
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    What's that guy's problem anyways? Is he just that bitter over Trump that he'll voted against a bill sponsored by one of his best friends?

    I didn't have any qualms about a state going single-payer, there is no realistic way that will happen unless state taxes are increased astronomically.

    McCain is very sick, he will probably not live to see Obamacare collapse and he won't change parties as he should because I think he's holding out for the governor to appoint Meghan, his stupid daughter.
     
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    The BIG difference between democrats and republicals is that the Dems will have run off the cliff as a single unified group to get what they want, while Rhino republicans are killing Trump efforts so far!
     
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