Alan Gross
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Or, not really?
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Has anyone ever come up with something negative to say about Trump?
- Thread starter Alan Gross
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Yes.
Some of the things that are not true but the Democrats attributed to Trump were: Trump called US military members "suckers", Trump said COVID was a hoax, Trump recommended a database of Muslims, Trump said Mexicans are rapists, Trump said that white nationalists were "fine people",
Some of the negative things about Trump that are true is that Trump has often lied about things accomplished during his term (he said illegal border crossings were down 73%, which was fabricated; that the New York Times had to apologize because of their coverage of his administration; that he has cleared the way for the Keystone XL pipeline which would bring over 45k new jobs; that NATO countries have started increasing their contribution by billions of dollars...for example); Trump mischaracterized Joe Biden's campaign; Trump has a massive ego; Trump is rude and arrogant; etc.).
As far as actions go, I can't think of anything negative. He has pretty much done what he has promised he would do (which is refreshing) with the exclusion of "draining the swamp". But it can be argued that he tried very hard on that last one, it is just something that can't be done.
Some of the things that are not true but the Democrats attributed to Trump were: Trump called US military members "suckers", Trump said COVID was a hoax, Trump recommended a database of Muslims, Trump said Mexicans are rapists, Trump said that white nationalists were "fine people",
Some of the negative things about Trump that are true is that Trump has often lied about things accomplished during his term (he said illegal border crossings were down 73%, which was fabricated; that the New York Times had to apologize because of their coverage of his administration; that he has cleared the way for the Keystone XL pipeline which would bring over 45k new jobs; that NATO countries have started increasing their contribution by billions of dollars...for example); Trump mischaracterized Joe Biden's campaign; Trump has a massive ego; Trump is rude and arrogant; etc.).
As far as actions go, I can't think of anything negative. He has pretty much done what he has promised he would do (which is refreshing) with the exclusion of "draining the swamp". But it can be argued that he tried very hard on that last one, it is just something that can't be done.
Here?? No, it's pretty much a bunch of Trump cultists here.
Like repeal and replace Obamacare...or building a wall? Or that he wouldn't have time to play golf...or the promise to lock up Hillary Clinton? What about ending Kim Jong Un's nuclear program?
All Trump has done is lie. Thankfully, most of America was "woke" enough to see this and fired him!!
Reformed1689
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Only if you take the quote out of context like all other liberal hacks.
Reformed1689
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This is a lie.
No, here are the lies:
He promised to repeal and replace Obamacare
He promised that Mexic pay for and build a wall
He promised that he wouldn't have time to play golf
He promised to lock up Hillary Clinton
He promised to end Kim Jong Un's nuclear program
But it's the conservative hacks who miss it.
Alan Gross
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No, here are the lies:
He promised to repeal and replace Obamacare
He promised that Mexic pay for and build a wall
He promised that he wouldn't have time to play golf
He promised to lock up Hillary Clinton
He promised to end Kim Jong Un's nuclear program
But it's the conservative hacks who miss it.
You're forgetting about his Second Term.
Not really, but it was assumed. He said that there were fine people on both sides, and when asked clarified that he meant the issue at hand (regarding the removal of monuments). And even in the video he never calls COVID a "hoax". He does say there is a hoax and that is the DNC politicizing the virus, but in the same video he speaks of setting up a COVID taskforce.
The problem is that Trump always has to talk, and often he does not think about how what he says can be received. He's always defensive - never listens to what is actually said or asked, just talks.
Okay, well let's unpack that.
So he's admitting the whole idea that the DNC would be politicizing the virus is a hoax?? He's either calling the coronavirus a hoax—which proves me correct—or he's claiming the politicizing of the virus by the DNC is a hoax—which means he's admitting that they weren't politicizing it. Which one?
I agree...he just talks.
For his part, yes. Given that he had ten years of opposition rolled up into 3 1/2 I'm actually shocked at what he has accomplished towards those goals. What I mean is that he did not say one thing and do another (although sometimes he may have been better off to have done so).
I do not think that America was "woke" at all. I do not trust the GOP, but there is absolutely no way the DNC is any better. A "woke" America would not have bought the lies of Biden or Trump. People pick teams hoping that the means will justify the ends, but it is all about power.
The DNC cares nothing about social justice (they derive their power from creating social injustice). The GOP cares nothing about social morality (they derive their power from exploiting immorality). The last thing the DNC wants is racial equality and social justice. The last thing the GOP wants is a moral society and the end of abortion. Each would cease to exist if the bait is taken from the trap. Sheeple always need a cause. (Or to borrow from Orwell, people at war are people that can be controlled).
No. He is saying that what the DNC was doing was a hoax - that they were politicizing the virus and presenting it within a false narrative.
We know he was not calling COVID a hoax because he said in the same video that he was addressing the virus by setting up a taskforce.
That's not how the English language works. Maybe you were hoping that's what he said. He presented two topics and said "it" is a hoax.
1. Either he said the coronavirus is a hoax—which means it's not true.
2. Or the DNC's politicizing the coronavirus is a hoax—which means it's not true.
They all do. I stopped voting because I believe that politics is a worldly power (Trump and Biden solidified that conviction). But I do watch both sides, see what they have to say, and just how they are received.
A Democrat who calls out Trump for lying is a hypocrite (and vise versa). I am not sure who lied more (Trump or Biden) and at this level of dishonesty I do not think it really matters. I even saw a clip of Obama this morning bashing Hispanics for voting for Trump because Trump built those cages (the ones that the Obama administration used). They are all liars.
Alan Gross
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Sources?
I am not going to dig up sources. Ask a Republican.
Do you know why it is important to be the first person in a big sale? It is because a narrative (a good narrative) once created is very hard to break from. This is why I say "sheeple". The DNC has a platform that depends on racism and social injustice. They have built a narrative - a way of looking at the world - that most Democrats will find hard to break from. That is how you can watch the Trump video and hear "COVID is a hoax" even though he stresses it is not with the "taskforce". It is the same with Republicans - that is how they can watch Biden and declare he will end fracking when he gets in office.