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Has Pastor Wright Handed the Democratic Presidential Nomination to Hillary Clinton

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Active Member

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    I think that there is a better than 50% chance that he has done so. We will find out next Tuesday in Indiana and North Carolina. If Senator Clinton wins both, then the super delegates will begin to flock to her.

    "Because Wright is a gift determined to keep on giving, this question arises: Can persons opposed to Barack Obama's candidacy justly make use of Wright's invariably interesting interventions in the campaign? The answer is: Certainly, because Wright's paranoias tell us something -- exactly what remains to be explored -- about his 20-year parishioner."

    - George Will - www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/no_limit_on_wrights_contributi.html
     
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    Alcott Well-Known Member

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    In anticipation of that, I hope the McCain campaign is working hard digging up dirt; there ought to be Wright in her life, too; that is, besides Slick Willie, who ain't exactly news.
     
  3. Andre

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    I will assume that your intent here is not what it seems. I suspect you will agree that obedient Christians will not reallly want people to be "digging up dirt". Jesus calls us to not do things the way the world does.

    I am fairly confident that while there may be some legiitimate concern about a negative influence on Obama from Wright, the Wright issue has got entirely out of hand.
     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    Wright is entirely out of hand.
     
  5. Andre

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    Fair enough. But it would be irresponsible to simply assume that Wright has had significant influence on Mr. Obama. Trite statements to the effect that "the pastor must have deeply influenced the parishioner" do not hold up to the more complicated truth of reality.

    I know of people who work within the structures of the church to challenge and confront a leadership that they believe has gone astray. And I know people who have entirely rejected their parent's worldview. And I am sure it goes the other way as well.
     
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    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    Obama's relationship was far deeper than that with Wright and I have yet to see or hear any statements made as simple as yours. Obama said Wright is liek an uncle, he is a mentor, and Obama has sat on his counsel at church.
     
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    I think that Ken is probably correct. Rev. Wright won't go away from Sen. Obama and is a reminder to everyone that the Senator is far more liberal than he portrays himself.
     
  8. Andre

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    But this does not really establish much. I know a man who loves his father but entirely rejects an entire aspect of his father's world view. And I was a member of the council at my church and was fighting hammer and tong against where the leadership wanted to go.

    We should investigate and see what Obama has said and done in respect to the controversial views. Does Obama believe the things that Wright does?
     
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    It crossed my mind since earlier Wright was supposed to have been unavailable due to being on a Sabbatical, if his rise to meet the presses "crucifixion" wasn't a way to get back at Obama for not supporting him and for rejecting his ideals.
     
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    Well he doesn't have much of a paper trail. And his words are insufficient. The next thing we have is his relationships. Comparing Obama's relationship with Wright to a childs relationship with his father is another incorrect comparison. WE can choose whcih church to go to and whether or not a man not of our blood will be like an uncle or out mentor. We cannot choose who our parents are. Therefore he has chosen to be mentored by Wright which says quite a bit more than anything else could say.
     
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    Gingrich believes that Wright maybe doing this intentionally to hurt Obama:

    Read here
     
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    If the Wright issue persists, it will make Obama unelectable in the general election. If the super-delegates think he is unelectable they will give the nod to Hillary.

    The Republicans in NC have used the Wright issue in their ads to attack Obama. McCain has condemned them for this. This is the type of self-righteousness on the part of McCain which will probably cost him the general election. The man's judgement is seriously lacking.
     
  13. KenH

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    Frankly, it will be easier for her to save our nation from the debacle of a McCain administration than for Senator Obama.

    I like Senator Obama but the need to save our nation from Senator McCain comes first.
     
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    I smell another flop coming to go with your earlier flips.:laugh:
     
  15. KenH

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    Pretended ignorance or selective memory? ;)

    I have previously stated that I will support Senator Clinton if she is the Democratic nominee.
     
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    Got all your bases covered yet? :laugh:
     
  17. KenH

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    I am simply going to support the Democratic Party presidential nominee whether it is Senator Obama or Senator Clinton. That is hardly covering my bases. So please cease the personal attacks.
     
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    Really?

    First , it was a Republican. Then it was a libertarian running as a Republican.

    Now it is any democrat at all.

    I think I got it. :confused:

    I hope you do.
     
  19. KenH

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    And Senator Obama certainly fits the bill for a libertarian on civil liberties and foreign policy.
     
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    :laugh: Oh, please.......
     
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