has the Christian Church Redefined Hell and Homosexuality?

Certainly! David was not comitting adultery as a practice or murder either. The same for any believer. We may sin but we do not practice sin. 1John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit (practice) sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot (practice) sin, because he is born of God.
So my view is the same as the bibles.

 

I don't think so FAL.

How many times do you have to commit adultry before you are considered an adulter? (ask your wife, she'll have the answer)

How many people do you have to kill to be considered a murderer? (same as above, just ask anyone convicted of such a crime)

No, we aren't considered such by God any longer, even if we commit such sins after salvation, because Christ's blood covers all. If not, we'd be working for our salvation and the Bible is clear that we do not.

David committed both murder and adultry, but he was considered a man of God because God gave him that title. And when God gives you such a gift, He doesn't go back on His word.

 

You don't think so about what?

 

The difference is that one or a few acts shows the fallible humanity. A practice of sin shows willful intent to disregard God.

 

That is a good way to put it.

 

Just a bunch of words. What does that mean?

 

Well then you would be wrong according to the bible.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit (practice) sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot (practice) sin, because he is born of God.

God keeps us from the practice of sin if we are saved. We are to stop sinning altogether.

 

Lets get back to Homosexuality. If you call yourself a homosexual and continue to practice homosexuality (having sexual relations with your own sex) and are ok with that choice, you are not saved and cannot be called a Christian. Period.

I would call this a false convert. If you are truly saved you will detest sin, and although you may occasionally slip, you will be have great sorrow for it and fall at Gods feet and ask for forgiveness. You will not proudly continue in that lifestyle with no feelings of guilt about it. Although you may have those urges occasionally, the Holy Spirit will help you overcome them.

I was an alcoholic, but once I was truly saved and repented from that sin, God gave me a new nature and it grieved me greatly when I slipped and got drunk in the beginning. I finally was able with the help of the Holy Spirit to overcome that sin completely. But if I would have "prayed the prayer" and said I was saved and continued in the alcoholic lifestyle because that is what I am, an alcoholic, but since I am "saved" I can continue on getting drunk....then I would not really have been saved and would just be a false convert.

Once you are truly saved, God gives you new desires, and you become a new creature. If you are still struggling with a habitual sin, ie; alcholism or homosexuality, then I would question your salvation.

 

Since I have never met those the people you mentioned and talked to them I cannot tell you one way or the other. I base my belief totally on scripture. However if you can show me anyplace in the bible where God calls us (believers) to anything less then living above sin I will certainly change my view. Please post any verse that says we are to seek to have just a little sin in our lives.
Also this poses a question for you. Do you believe God wants us to seek not to ever sin or just seek not to sin very much?

 

You are so correct. No true believer can continue in the practice of sin. Praise God for seeting you free as he has set all of us free from practicing sin by saving our souls. God bless.

 

Answer my question first and then I will answer yours.

 

Very nice, now how about ansering my question as that was not what I asked. "Do you believe God wants us to seek not to ever sin or just seek not to sin very much?"

 

You say it is impossible. MY guess is that the thief on the cross did it so why can't others?