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Featured Has your opinion the death penalty changed after SC church massacre?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Jun 20, 2015.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    With this domestic act of terrorism in SC being fresh on your heart and mind, I wanted to ask about your thoughts on whether he should be executed for his act on nine church going folks?

    One family member, when asked about the murders, said that while she forgave Roof, she wanted to be there when he faced God on judgement day. I do not know if she was eluding to his being sentenced to death or just facing the judgement of God. But her words caused me to think of this board and the huge divide n sides when it comes to the death penalty. And while I realize that we've hashed this out before - the death penalty - has this heinous act changed you view on the death penalty, even in the slightest way? :flower:
     
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    Nope.................
     
  3. Salty

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    I have the same belief - I support the death penalty - AFTER a jury had decided above a reasonable doubt. And the accused recieves his constitontial appeals
     
  4. Rebel

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    I am still opposed to the death penalty.
     
  5. Scarlett O.

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    I'm still for it. The carnal side of me wants him to be shot 9 times, but the Christian side of me wants a fair and speedy trial where all doubt is removed and lethal injection.

    I have not changed my mind, but my opinion is solidified.
     
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    The bible clearly teaches capital punishment. Newspaper headlines do not change the truth.
     
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    Why??? What reason do you have?
     
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    Kill him!!! The murderer deserves to die!! I am opposed to a trial, but am open to a sentence and a hanging.
     
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    I would say avoid the lethal injection and go for the hanging.
     
  10. JamesL

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    Is that guy (the alleged shooter) a believer? I know your warped doctrine will say his behavior is indicative of his spirital condition, so....

    Since you should flatly reject the notion that this guy is a believer, why would you appeal to biblical precedent where God prescribed judicial action toward the people of a Covenant ???
     
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    And the self righteous one doesn't

    That's rich
     
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    As Christians, we are to obey authorities (unless there is the occasion where the authorities want us to disobey God). Our laws state that offenders must be given a fair trial, due process, and a speedy trial.

    Our laws also state that punishment cannot be cruel or unusual.

    Hanging is cruel. Lethal injection takes place after the person is unconscious.

    We cannot disobey the law and believe ourselves justified if we are denying this offender what the law rightly offers him.
     
  13. JamesL

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    To be fair, "cruel and unusual" is rather subjective.

    Opinions vary as to what is cruel and unusual, and opinions change like the wind.
     
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    The only thing warped is your posts most everytime.
    Capital punishment was in place before Israel was a nation.Gen9......

    Most believers I know do not commit mass murder....not sure of those in your circles.Once again your posting is bizarre but thats how you roll......lol
     
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    That's true. Hanging and death by firing squad and by the gas chamber used to be considered fair. Now they aren't. And there's a reason. Many times it took the offender a long and gruesome time to die.

    In fact, the gas chamber in my state of Louisiana was - in its day - called "Gruesome Gertie".

    I don't think opinions will ever sway backwards.
     
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    James Who ???
     
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    Now that's downright funny

    :D


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    For a punishment to be "cruel and unusual," it must be more cruel and unusual than the crime which warrants it. So, in this particular case, firing squad is very appropriate. In Texas, if we did still use Old Sparky, maybe he would think about while all those volts are going through him.
     
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    sounds good to me
     
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    I'm still opposed to the death penalty.

    Death, particularly for Mr Roof, is too good for him.

    There are moments when my conviction on this is challenged. However, I remain steadfast in my opposition to it.
     
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