Health Care Reform That I Can Support

My father-in-law has to deal with the VA all the time. If it is representative of government healthcare, then I don't want anything to do with it. He waits weeks for the same appointments that I get into within days. He is routinely denied services that I get easily.

 

And there should be only one model of automobile for all Americans - rich and poor and middle class.

And one size and type of house for all Americans - rich and poor and middle class.

And one style of dress for all Americans - rich and poor and middle class.

Come to think of it there should be only one class of Americans - no rich and no middle class - just poor.

Then we would all be the same.

 

Why? Don't all Americans deserve shelter?

Don't all Americans deserve to be clothed?

Isn't an automobile a virtual necessity in our society?

Why do you single out health care?

Don't you care whether all Americans have a place to live or clothes to wear or a car to get to work or the store or to the doctor's office?

 

Unless you are being "smartelecky"

 

I am just trying to understand your position.

Why should all Americans be entitled to governement health care (at taxpayer expense) without the option to opt out for an alternative of their own choice but are not entitled to the same in other areas of need such as housing, clothing and transportation?

I should also add nutrition.

If you can't explain the difference it may be because you haven't thought it out.

 

From KenH's quote earlier of the brilliant plan that will save our souls. It comes from the all-knowing, all-powerful keepers of all things good, the most reverend government of the Peoples' Republic of the United States:

Of course they do. Lie.

Since when has the government ever instituted a program that they did not run? Baloney. Lie.

Because now...I have a choice. Under your "plan," there's no competition, choice, or incentive for these guys to improve. Misleading, at least.

More misleading. This would lead you to think that all insurance companies deny everything and give the shaft to all their customers. When you have the spare time, look through the thousands of articles about people who end up in trouble thanks to stupid government regulations...overzealous bureaucrats...a system that doesn't care...

They did make one true statement. It is a "no brainer."

I thought it was telling when KenH stated, "I don't care if it is (unamerican) or not."

Just wow.

 

Simple fact is your question cannot be answered without self incrimination.

 

It is proposed to cost 1 trillion, 860 billion dollars PER YEAR, and includes repealing GWB's 1991 tax cuts.

And we can expect long waits for substandard treatment, just like everyone else that has some form of national health care.

 

No a vaild arguement.

If one does not have a home (shelter) one would not have good health.
If one does not have proper clothing one would not have good health.
If one does not have proper nutrition (food) one would not have good health.
If one does not have adequate transportation (for most areas of the country this means a car) one could not get to the health care facility.

All of these things are necessary to live.

So why do you choose health care as the one thing that the government should provide at taxpayer expense - without the option to opt out or to pay for your own? As you said - rich, poor or middle class.

By your same logic why shouldn't the government provide all these essential needs to all people - rich, poor, or middle class - at taxpayer expense?

 

Ken H - there are several reasons why health care costs are increasing.

One factor is the continuing advancement in technologies and procedures being available. As these new options are available patients are asking for them and expecting insurance companies to pay for them. So insurance premiums go up accordingly.

The increase in non-essential surgeries such as plastic surgery places demands on the system. For instance doctors who would otherwise practice general medicine instead opt to practice in plastic surgery and the demand for doctors and the salaries paid to doctors increase.

Part of the cost of drugs is for research. Patients are constantly looking for the new drug that will take care of their illness. If you attempt to artifically control the consumer cost of drugs you will kill future research into new drugs.

This is much more than a mere matter of health care system management costs. Government meddling into the health care system will have unintended adverse consequences.

 

So then it comes down to a "feeling" for you.

No logical arguement.

No justification for taking rights away from others.

No justification for taking yet more money away from taxpayers.

It's just something that you "want".

 

The solution is to provide solutions to only those who are in need.

If someone does not have health insurance because their job does not provide it and they do not earn sufficiently to afford it - come up with a limited solution to solve that limited problem.

Leave the options and rights of others in place.