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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Robert Snow, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Amy.G

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    Why don't you call it murder?
     
  2. OldRegular

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    Because he has a conscience?????????:confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
  3. Amy.G

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    It doesn't seem to be working. :laugh:
     
  4. Robert Snow

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    Reconsidered.
     
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    You never addressed the rest of my post...

    Are you implying the only deliberate taking of human life addressed in the Bible is that of the unborn? Where do you find that distinction?

    Are you saying God is a one issue God and is only concerned if I vote for an abortion candidate or not? Does this mean I can vote for the adulterer like Ensign and be okay? How about the other sins of the GOP candidates? Are they okay to vote for? Where do you find this in scripture?
     
  6. LeBuick

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    I am not allowed to state my views on this board. But I believe my beliefs are founded in Scripture.

    Listen, something doesn't have to align against the 10 commandments to be sin or wrong. That is a short sided view of God and one of the myths Jesus worked to dispel. People felt it was okay not to love their enemies because it wasn't listed with the thou shalt nots of the OT.

    You see, some feel more empowered if they can say abortion is murder because it helps them prove how God is against it. I believe God is against it even if it isn't murder and I don't have to stretch the meaning of a verse to make my case. But I also believe God is against many other things happening on this earth because my God is not a one issue God.
     
  7. OldRegular

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    I said:
    I intended to say the deliberate taking of innocent life is murder. That does not limit it to the slaughter of the most innocent, unborn children.

    I would say that God considers the slaughter of 50 million unborn children much more serious than adultery. Wouldn't you?

    You not only voted for a baby killer you voted for a racist. Of course the media never reports the debauchery of the democrats, like Barney Franks for instance.
     
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    "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy."

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    (approx 780 B.C)
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    Repent yourself. Your accusations against Mr. Snow are without merit unless you can provide evidence to back them up. Otherwise, it is just more of your nasty attitude toward others. The liar you are seeing may be the man in the mirror. Stick to the topic and stop the personal attacks. It adds nothing but discord to the debate.
     
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    His purpose here is to sow discord. He never answers a challenge, and has been banned twice. He's a liar, and we're supposed to hate sin, not wink at it. If you don't like my words to him, stay out of it.

    And those words weren't to Mr. Snow, so you should re-read those words from Proverbs that you said made my pastor a racist. I never accused Mr. Snow of anything.

    But I already know you won't admit your mstake, so I won't expect an aoplogy.
     
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  11. LeBuick

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    No, I believe you consider the slaughter of 50 million unborn more serious than adultery. You don't speak for God and I don't find this in his word.

    Sin is sin and you shouldn't try to excuse or make okay your sin by saying mine is worse.

    Voting for someone doesn't mean I endorse all his policies and beliefs but you go ahead and keep passing judgment on others. That's also a sin by the way. And sin is sin.
     
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    If you are hinting that Scripture supports a belief that human life does not began at conception you are totally wrong and you are looking for a cover for supporting the slaughter of the unborn.

    No one is arguing that. Whatever you are trying to say is a poor excuse for supporting the slaughter of the unborn.

    No one has stretched the meaning of Scripture. The slaughter of the unborn is murder.

    No one has said god is a one issue God. He is also against homosexuality which Obama supports. The last half of Romans 1 is a very strong condemnation of homosexuality.
     
  13. LeBuick

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    I would be wrong in your view OR, but luckily you're not Christ and I have scripture to support my views.

    Saying life begins at conception can only mean one took their view of conception to the Bible and found a verse(s) to support it. Trust me, I've seen them all and not one says life begins at conception. John kicking was an act of the Holy Spirit according to scripture and Jeremiah said, "BEFORE you formed me in the womb". The later verse would more support life beginning BEFORE conception if anything.

    Unlike this method, I went to the Bible with no view or preconceived beliefs and let it instruct me how to believe.

    I don't question your faith because of your views OR and I wish you would stop attacking mine. I believe in Christ and am his child whether you approve or not.
     
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