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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Taufgesinnter, Sep 7, 2003.

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  1. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    I think this is really cool! What do you think?

    "The one who would an elder be,
    A noble task desires he." (1 Tim. 3:1)

    "Foxes have holes and birds have nests,
    But the Son of Man has no place to rest." (Matt. 8:20)

    "To this world Christ Jesus came,
    Sinful people to reclaim." (1 Tim. 1:15)

    "A wedding song we played for you,
    The dance you did but scorn.
    A woeful dirge we chanted, too,
    But then you would not mourn." (Matt. 11:17)

    "In God's own form existed he,
    And shared with God equality,
    Deemed nothing needed grasping.
    Instead, poured out in emptiness,
    A servant's form did he possess,
    A mortal man becoming.
    In human form he chose to be,
    And lived in all humility,
    Death on a cross obeying
    Now lifted up by God to heaven,
    A name above all others given,
    This matchless name possessing.
    And so, when Jesus' name is called,
    The knees of everyone will fall,
    Where'er they are residing.
    Then every tongue with one accord,
    Will say that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    While God the Father praising." (Phil. 2:6-11)

    "Liars ever, men of Crete,
    Savage brutes that live to eat." (Titus 1:12)

    "In dying with Christ, true life we gain.
    Enduring, we with him shall reign.
    Who him denies, he will disclaim.
    Our faith may fail, his never wanes—
    For thus he is, he cannot change!" (2 Tim. 2:11-13)

    "In flesh was he revealed to sight,
    Kept righteous by the Spirit's might,
    Adored by angels singing.
    To nations was he manifest,
    Believing souls found peace and rest,
    Our Lord in heaven reigning!" (1 Tim. 3:16)

    "Absolved from every act of sin,
    Is wisdom by her kith and kin." (Matt. 11:19)

    "Red sky at night, what a delight.
    Red sky in the morning, cloudy and storming." (Matt. 16:2)

    "Love is very patient,
    Love is very kind,
    Love is never envious
    Or vaunted up with pride.

    Nor is she conceited,
    And never is she rude,
    Never does she think of self,
    Or ever get annoyed.

    She never is resentful,
    Is never glad with sin,
    But always glad to side with truth,
    When 'er the truth should win.

    She bears up under everything,
    Believes the best in all,
    There is no limit to her hope,
    And never will she fall." (1 Cor. 13:4-7)

    All of the above verses are quoted from the ISV.
     
    #1 Taufgesinnter, Sep 7, 2003
  2. BrianT

    BrianT New Member

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    That's great stuff. I wouldn't use it for detailed word study, but the poetical aspect makes it a fresh and delightful read.

    I have a copy of "The Book of Common Prayer" from the United Church of England (published 1832) that has all the Psalms in poetical form. Here is Psalm 23 from it:

    "The Lord himself, the mighty Lord,
    Vouchsafes to be my guide;
    The shepherd, by whose constant care
    My wants are all supplied.

    In tender grass he makes me feed,
    And gently there repose;
    Then leads me to cool shades, and where
    Refreshing water flows.

    He does my wand'ring soul reclaim,
    And, to his endless praise,
    Instruct with humble zeal to walk
    In his most righteous ways.

    I pass the gloomy vale of death,
    From fear and danger free;
    For there his aiding rod and staff
    Defend and comfort me.

    In presence of my spiteful foes
    He does my table spread;
    He crowns my cup with cheerful wine,
    With oil anoints my head.

    Since God does thus his wondrous love
    Through all my life extend,
    That life to him I will devote,
    And in his temple spend."
     
    #2 BrianT, Sep 7, 2003
  3. Pete Richert

    Pete Richert New Member

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    This is interesting. I was under the impression that the ISV was trying to be very literal. It would appear they are allowing for some dynamic equivelence in order to try to recreate (what might have been) poetic in the original.
     
    #3 Pete Richert, Sep 7, 2003
  4. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    Their web site also indicates they try to take a stab at alliteration when the original clearly did so (they cited a verse in Hebrews as an example, in which something like 5 out of 10 words started with pi). Neat!
     
    #4 Taufgesinnter, Sep 8, 2003
  5. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    It's a nice balance between trying to recreate the original and being literal. I really like it!
     
    #5 Taufgesinnter, Sep 19, 2003
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    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    bump
     
    #6 Taufgesinnter, Oct 24, 2003
  7. Dr. Bob

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    Just remember that Hebrew poetry DID NOT RHYME like typical poetry does in Latin or English.

    So trying to force a meter and rhyme scheme on Scripture is extremely foreign to the inspired original and does it grave injustice.
     
    #7 Dr. Bob, Oct 25, 2003
  8. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    I don't have any examples of OT poetry being done that way, just in the NT.

    I've been told that the Sermon on the Mount rhymes in Aramaic.
     
    #8 Taufgesinnter, Oct 25, 2003
  9. Daniel Dunivan

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    Correction, much Hebrew poetry does have meter, but no rhyme.

    Grace and Peace, Danny [​IMG]
     
    #9 Daniel Dunivan, Oct 25, 2003
  10. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    Was that to me or Doc?
     
    #10 Taufgesinnter, Oct 29, 2003
  11. Johnv

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    That's interesting, since Jesus very likely spoke Aramaic when delivering the SoM; even though it was recorded in Greek, not Aramaic.

    On a sidenote, we should be careful and true when studying the NT, because much of what we read is an English translation of Greek texts which recorded words that were spoken in Aramaic. Interesting, huh?
     
    #11 Johnv, Oct 29, 2003
  12. Trotter

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    So that would make it a translation of a translation of a translation (or more if it was built upon an earlier work...)? ;) Gotcha

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
    #12 Trotter, Oct 29, 2003
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