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Featured Hillary speaks Truth!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by steaver, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. Zaac

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    Sure wouldn't. Good thing that I've never voted for him.

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    Could it be that if they did not support Hitler, they would have been executed?
     
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    Do any better how? Economically? Spiritually? What?

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    All I can say about DT according to the scripture and his deeds is that he is a sinner as am I.
    He does not seem to be saved but who am I to make that final judgement?

    But the same thing can be said of Hillary.

    So we have come full circle.

    In my lifetime I have no doubt voted for individuals who were not saved however that does not seem to be the criteria of the bible for the qualification of national leaders.

    Yes I will answer to God for voting against one who openly pronounces that babies can legally be killed in their mothers womb.

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  5. Zaac

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    Acknowledging that someone doesn't know Christ is not a final judgment

    Sure it could other than the fact that she has spoken of her belief in Christ and her faith.

    I think because her last name is Clinton and there's a D after it, that Christians don't give her nearly the benefit of the doubt that they give to a man who says he doesn't ask God for forgiveness.

    I'm talking about the standard to which Christians should support. The lot of you seem to tHink that where a candidate stands on abortion is more important than whether our not the candidate rejects or accepts Christ.

    It's idolatry.

    And yes Christians will get to answer to Him for the idolatry too. God's judgment against the church in the US just as He did against Israel is why there will be 8 years of Hillary Clinton.

    There is no justification for the obvious idolatry.





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    Well I'm proud of you. Seriously.
    But so many people these days conflate nationalism and NAZI'ism. And just automatically assume they are the same.

    Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, were all nationalistic, and no one accused them of being Hitler.

    Hitler wrote in the 1930's, "How many diseases have their origin in the Jewish virus! ... We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew." And he meant it. Trump has said nothing at all like this and yet people now accuse him of being a NAZI.
     
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    no they actually loved him. Got them jobs, got their economy moving, got them to have a sense of pride and a belief they could dominate Europe.

    If you were to have a political leader that provided the country incredible economic growth, stability etc and you were reaping the benefits.....

    Of course that came at a price later on. Same thing in Italy........Mussolini improved their quality of life (for a time).
     
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    Let me give you one example - Mrs Muller was my Secretary in Germany (81-83) she toldme that as a child - her and her mom would listen to the BBC - but when they did, they put a very heavy blanket over the radio-and keep it low - because if the German guards were to hear the BBC - they would come in and shoot without questions.
    "I'm sure that Mrs Muller and her mom were not the only ones who did this.
     
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