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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bible-boy, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Bible-boy

    Bible-boy Active Member

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    No it does not prevent the use of analogies. However, the analogies must be accurate in the comparisons they attempt to draw. Likewise, legitament comparisons would be most welcome. However, when you jump into an ongoing discussion about an issue surrounding President elect Obama's social agenda with a comment like, "Well Bush killed hundreds of thousands in his unjust war" all you have attempted to do is derail the discussion. Likewise, in this thread asking if President Bush moved the country more toward a Socialist agenda or not has not bearing on the President-elect Obama's political positions, philosophies, or ideas. Obama either is or is not a Socialist regardless of the actions of President Bush. Finally, the answer for your concern here is for you to start your own threads on the subjects you'd like to discuss. But you don't seem to want to do that.
     
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    Great post. I agree fully with your assessment. Likewise, since President-elect Obama is clearly a Socialist (in his stated political positions, political philosophies, and political ideas) I see no reason why it would be unacceptable to refer to him as a Socialist.
     
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    I am a socialist myself as I approve of programs such as Social Security and Medicare.
     
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    Me too. I approve oif them more the closer I get to retirement. Of course with Bush's Depression I doubt I receive any benefits.
     
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    So why do you two have such knee-jerk reactions when we refer to President elect Obama as a Socialist if you openly agree with his stated support of a Socialist aganda?
     
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    We were talking about Social Security and Medicare. If you call those socialist then you call present day America socialist. Why are you so fixated on socialism?
     
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    I am a socialist as I support Social Security and Medicare. I certainly hope that Barack is a socialist, too, as I want plans to pass the Congress and be signed by the president during the next four years to shore up Social Security and Medicare.
     
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    As one poster displays every single post:

    socialist=communist=atheist...

    I am a socialist, never been a communist and never been an atheist.

    This is my objection to calling the man a socialist. Too many can't tell the left hand from the right.

    How long before I will be called a communist and an atheist?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    We are all aware of this situation as you post it repeatedly. It may be best to report it rather than carry on. As far as socialism and communism there is little to no difference between the two these days.
     
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    That is not the extent of Socialism that has been discussed in this thread and/or the "President Elect Obama Marxist?" thread which spurred this one. You two simply tried to limit the discussion to those two points here within the last page or so. There is no question that the Moderate/Liberal RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) and the Liberal/Socialist Democrats have sold this nation down the river of failed western European Socialism. It is an economic cancer that eats away at the heart of a nation by causing its people to become dependent on the government for their very existence. It is the antitheist of everything our forefathers sacrificed, fought, bled, and died for in order to bring this nation into existence. I will never give in to the Socialist agenda and will fight against it where ever I see it taking root. But, please feel free to go stand in line for a government hand out if that is what you prefer.
     
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    Hello Jim,

    With all due respect I must point out that the poster's signature that you reference here is not directed at you in any way, shape, or form. It specifically is speaking about President-elect Obama. No one has called you any name or attached any label to you (other than yourself by calling yourself a Socialist). So you really need to drop this line of argument. Likewise, if you have a personal problem with that poster's signature you need to address it directly with that poster in private as Matt. 18:15 instructs and stop waving your laundry out here for all to see.
     
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    Then I shall leave the Board
     
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    Are you the Moderator of this Forum?
     
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    No. I have told you repeatedly that I am not a moderator of this specific forum; however, I am a moderator on the Baptist Board as a whole. What does this have to do with my post you quoted above or the topic of this thread?
     
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    If you feel the need to question the authority of any of the moderators on this board then I suggest that you contact the administration directly and not complain publicly.
     
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    Your allegation is false. No one called you a communist or an atheist. A person's signature line is their own, and in that signature line you are not mentioned but rather an American political figure. How on earth can you even associate yourself with it?

    Furthermore you are not the only Canadian on this board. I also am Canadian, and I do not take any offense at the statement at all. In fact I find that it is quite politically correct providing one reads the = signs as meaning "leads to."
    We learned both in High School and in college these simple facts:
    Socialism is the foundation of Communism, or that it leads to communism.
    We know that Communism breeds atheism. Russia is a good example.
    There is nothing wrong with that political message.

    In addition, you know as well as I do, that we (Canadians) live in the most socialized nation of the western hemisphere. But this socialized nation was voted five times in a row as the best nation in the world to live in by the U.N. The present Prime-Minister is far from being communist; but years ago Trudeau wasn't ashamed of being called one. We have a colorful history. We need not to be ashamed of it. Neither do we need to take some other persons signature line personally. It has nothing to do with Canadians, Canadian politics, or you. It has the name of an American leader in it. For you to personalize it is ludicrous.
     
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    So far none of Obama's picks for cabinet posts reflect a Communist government or takeover.
     
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    There is not a dime's worth of difference in the stated political positions, political philosophies, amd political ideas between Mrs Clinton and President-elect Obama. Likewise, V.P.-elect Biden's name appears along side Obama's on everyone of his proposed plans, at his official website which happens to be in near lockstep with the Communist Party USA's "Bill of Rights Socialism." So there are the two highest ranking members of the Obama Administration who are also Socialists.
     
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    Rather than just link us to a detailed website could you please specify, with documentation, where the president elect espouses specific views of the CPUSA?
     
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