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How did everything change after the fall?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by xdisciplex, May 21, 2006.

  1. xdisciplex

    xdisciplex New Member

    Dec 20, 2005
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    If before the fall all animals were vegetarians then what about animals like scorpions? What does a vegetarian scorpion need a sting for? Somehow this is so hard to imagine how everything is supposed to have looked originally. I just saw a documentary about poisonous animals and it was really shocking. I wonder why does God even create animals with a poison strong enough to kill humans? Why are there animals which have such a strong poison that even humans can die from it? The prey of these animals is usually other animals which are smaller than humans. Then why do they need such a strong poison?

    I think this is one of the main problems which evolutionists have with God. They see the perfection in nature but they also see how mercyless animals kill each other. Somehow it's really hard to imagine that God invented things like nerve poison which paralyzes the prey. Or when you think about spiders which eat their victims alive. How can God even invent such things? Isn't this totally against God's nature? Is God even capable of inventing such cruel things?

    And there are also so many other remaining questions about how God originally imagined life.
    Even if there was no death in Eden what would have happened if Adam had stepped on an ant? Would this ant have died? Or what would have happened if Eve had fallen down from a cliff? Would she have hurt herself? Or would even getting an injury have been impossible in Eden? :(
  2. Nicholas25

    Nicholas25 New Member

    Mar 21, 2006
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  3. Jarthur001

    Jarthur001 Active Member

    Jun 16, 2005
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    Why do you see this as a problem? Those that hold to creation do not say evolution never happened in any form. They say evolution did NOT MAKE better. We see evolution go down hill and all agree to this.

    In Godless evolution we see simple going to complex...or a better / higher form. In creation things can change, but can only go down the scale.

    In Creation God made..and said it is good. If God says it is good...you can't get better.

    In evolution things keep getting better....moving higher up the scale.

    Do you want to see a picture of Gods creation as He made it? It tells us in the Bible...

    5And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

    6The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    9They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    10And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious

    This is a picture of Heaven and also the way God made the world. This is a higher form then what we see now. Things have went down to where the lion will kill the lamb. This came after sin. The lion ate hey at 1st...but now it eats meat.

    In Christ...James