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How Do People Buy Guns Legally?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Squire Robertsson, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. JonC

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    I agree with @HankD . One page of dead horse beating ain't even a good start.

    Anyone who hangs out on the Cal/Arm section knows this.
     
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    You order them on the internet and the UPS man leaves them on your front porch?? That's what the libs believe.
     
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    And as Mr. Kraut points out, they are completely wrong.
     
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    A real life exception?
     
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    A very edited video. Why the cuts? What is CNN trying to hide?
     
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    Thank you for this, Squire. Very helpful. We in Britain are not always familiar with U.S. law.
    However, would you please have a look at this tweet
    Mic on Twitter
    and tell me if this fellow is correct that he bought an AR 15 rifle from a guy in a parking lot and that it was entirely legal.

    I'm not trying to contradict you, only to understand.
     
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    Private transactions are legal, but if the person who sold this firearm is doing this over and over again then he has become a defacto dealer and is now in violation of the law. Everyone who does this as a business needs to have a FFl (Federal Firearms License) which allows the person involved to buy and sell firearms legally.
     
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    The line between private seller and dealer seems pretty vague to me.

    https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

     
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    CNN is probably trying to hide that they are wrong (at least for my state).

    While it is right that a 13 year old kid could buy a firearm from an individual seller, they are wrong that it would be legal. It is illegal (in Tennessee) for me to sell a gun to someone who could not legally own, use, or purchase a gun. I could do it, but it would be illegal (like providing alcohol to a minor).

    To compare apples to apples, they should have taken the kid to a gun store and had him try to purchase a gun. Or perhaps have him ask people on the street for a beer, or smoke.

    That said, there is no background check. If I sold a gun to Mr. Smith, I could verify his age and state of residence but I would not typically know his background. There are no laws requiring individuals to perform background checks.
     
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    You forgot how the liberal mindset works. Tell a lie enough times and it becomes true.
     
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    Correction: You forgot how the liberal mindset works. Tell a lie enough times and it becomes believed to be true.
    :)
     
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    I actually think the liberals believe the lie becomes truth.
     
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    Ya, now that you mention it - Trump is a Russian Agent in collusion with Putin :Roflmao
     
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    Yep. I think they are really twins separated at birth.
     
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    Yes obviously fraternal!
     
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    Those who adhere to the law use the legal purchase system .If you know you would fail, they would find another way. Private sales do not have checks. This makes some sellers liable on some transactions,, Felons (some) and those judged currently mentally unstable or domestic violence records will not pass a check. If a felon wants a gun, they will get a gun. It will not be a "AR-15" which is a COLT brand. The Florida shooter used a S&W MP 15 in .223 which is cheaper but over $500.
    It functions like any semi automatic .22 beginners rifle

    The average deer hunter uses a cartridge with much more power.
     
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    Where does a typical teen with no mother or father, living off the welfare of others, get $500.00?

    Add to that multiple clips, and amo.

    Follow the money and prosecute the seller or giver of the weapon for public endangerment.

    I am not opposed to responsible gun ownership, but perhaps, prior to selling, the weapons should be insured.

    The insurance rate categorized by type, typlical use, and age of users.
     
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    What did he need clips for? Did he have real long hair?


    clip mag.jpg
     
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    What is shown above is a "banana" clip - about 30 rounds - Standard magazine holds about 20 rounds.
     
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    No, it's not. On the left is a "stripper clip" used to load the internal magazine on an M1 or similar rifle.

    On the right is a standard capacity magazine for an AR-15.
     
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