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How many different KJV editions today?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Logos1560, Dec 29, 2006.

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  1. Ed Edwards

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    Just compare the KJVs with the KJB*, that's all anyone needs to do.

    Prove to me the KJVs aren't full of variations.[/quote]

    I need to revive the 'which of the KJVs is the KJB' thread :laugh:
     
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  2. Ed Edwards

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    That thread was shut off, people couldn't stay on topic
    long enough to satisfy the PTB. The fact it was POLL
    didn't seem to mean anything -- i.e. people were VOTING
    how they felt, how they believed.

    Here it is:
    Which of the KJVs is the KJB?

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=30617&highlight=kjvs
     
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  3. Logos1560

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    If you intended your statement to be a positive statement of fact, you have the burden of proof to prove it. I don't need to disprove a statement that you have not been proven to be valid. Being different from the KJV does not prove that a translation is full of errors. The KJV made the same-type revisions and changes in the pre-1611 English Bibles of which the KJV was a revision as you can find when compared the KJV and the NKJV. Would you claim that the KJV was a revision of earlier English Bibles that were full of errors because they differ from the KJV?

    The NKJV was based on the underlying original language texts as the KJV.
    Compared to the same underlying original language texts, the NKJV is clearer, better, and more accurate than the KJV at least some verses.
     
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  4. Keith M

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    The KJV is also merely a version with many errors, no matter which of the various editions (with their differences) you may accept as the definitive KJV.

    What makes the KJV the yardstick by which all other versions are found in error? And which of the different editions of the KJV is the perfect one? The various KJVs also have errors, several of which have been pointed out repeatedly in these forums. When you use a version with errors as your yardstick for measuring all other versions, your conclusions can be nothing but erroneous.

    Since it is you making the accusation, Salamander, the burden of proof lies on your own shoulders. Prove to us the NKJV is full of errors. Where is it not an accurate translation of the underlying Greek text? And while you're at it, prove that the KJV has no errors. Also show us by what authority you measure all versions by the KJV. Where in the Bible (any version) does it say that we are to measure all Bible versions by the KJV?
     
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  5. Keith M

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    The "original" would be the 1611 edition of the KJV. Since that time there have been various revisions of the KJV so that the editions most commonly sold today as the KJV are not in fact the original 1611 KJV.

    There are also other versions based on the same underlying manuscripts as the KJVs. There is the American King James Version (AKJV), the 21st Century King James Version (KJ21), the Third Millennium Bible (TMB), the Modern King James Version (MKJV) as well as the New King James Version (NKJV) to name just a few. These are all translated from the same basic Greek texts which were eventually compiled and labeled as the Textus Receptus (TR).

    Oddly enough, many who promote the KJVO thinking cannot say which of the editions actually issued as the KJV they think is the perfect edition and which editions are not perfect. One thing is certain though - most KJVO believers refuse to accept other TR-based versions as being the word of God just as they refuse to accept versions based on other manuscripts as the word of God. They are a very confused bunch, those KJVO believers.
     
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  6. robycop3

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    Since YOU'RE making the assumption, YOU need to prove the KJV isn't the one with the errors where they differ.
     
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  7. Logos1560

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    One of the most unusual editions of the KJV is probably not in print today.
    It was printed in the 1840's.

    Its title page has the following: The Holy Bible Containing the Authorized Version of the Old and New Testaments, with many thousand emendations [People's Edition]. It is another edition of the 1841 A. V. edited by J. T. Conquest whose title page stated that it had "twenty thousand emendations" (Darlow, Historical Catalogue, p. 356). KJV-only author Laurence Vance listed this 1841 Bible in his book and noted that it "contained the text of the Authorized Version but 'with twenty thousand emendations'" (Brief History, p. 46). KJV-only author D. A. Waite also listed this 1841 edition in his appendix B (Defending the KJB, p. 205). William Paul observed that J. T. Conquest “published an altered edition of the King James Version” (English Language Bible, p. 58).
     
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  8. Keith M

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    And we thought the changes made in editions of the KJV after 1611 were significant! 20K changes would be a nightmare for those of the KJVO persuasion!

    :thumbs:
     
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