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How many liberals does it take to win a war?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Aug 13, 2005.

  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    It's a poem, not an article, and as such, far better than Russ's.

    No, not "all", just certain, specific things.

    No, it doesn't. It merely decries imperialism.

    No, it's a view that doesn't support starting wars - that would have saved our nation much grief had it been heeded.

    Utter nonsense. This poem shows how an innocent civilian who was NOT an enemy before the invasion, becomes one.

    What is disgusting wanting to invade countries that pose no credible threat to us and pretending that it is moral and right.

    No, it shows clearly why liberal thinking PREVENTS such wars. Once thinking such as yours gets us into these horrible messes, liberals fight to set things right as ably as anyone.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Those, indeed, are the views of a diehard liberal. They're accurately and ably presented but wrong never the less. I'm so glad those views are not the ones driving our nation's policy for the time being and hope it stays that way.
     
  2. StraightAndNarrow

    StraightAndNarrow Active Member

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    I don't know where you got your numbers but this comes from the Senate web site.

    The 108 Congress A Profile
    http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS21379.pdf

    Congress is composed of 540 individuals from the 50 states, as well as the District
    of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa. This
    count assumes that no seat is temporarily vacant.2 The following is a profile of the 108th
    Congress.

    Party Breakdown
    In the 108th Congress, the current party breakdown in the House is 227 Republicans,
    210 Democrats (including five Delegates), and one Independent who is aligned with the
    Democrats. The Senate has 51 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and one Independent who is
    aligned with the Democrats.

    Military Service14
    There are 153 Members of the 108th Congress who have had some form of military service, some 14 fewer than in the 107th Congress. The House has 117 veterans: 69
    Republicans and 48 Democrats, including one woman, who is a Republican. In the
    Senate, 35 Members is veterans: 19 Republicans and 16 Democrats. They have served in World War II, the Korean War, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and Kosovo, and during times of peace, as well as in the Reserves and the National Guard. One Senator is a former Secretary of the Navy. There has been a steady decline in the number of Members who have served in the military, which may be attributed in part to the end of the Selective Service System draft in 1973.

    Total Congress
    540
    Republican
    227+51 = 278
    Veterans 69
    % Vet = 69/278 = 25%

    Democrat
    210+49 = 259
    Veterans 48
    % Vet = 48/259 = 19%
     
  3. emeraldctyangel

    emeraldctyangel New Member

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    Step one in how to be a proper liberal - hedge your bets on everything. Kind of makes you wonder if they say the same things to everyone or is there just a different viewpoint for each person they meet?
    Of course it does. Everything is perfect when you live in some alternate universe.

    Now where is that picture of the large crying baby when you need it? LOL

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Daisy

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    No bets are being hedged here. Of course other viewpoints are considered and parts I find legitimate are integrated into my own. Pity that some are so mired in their own pov that they can only fling muck at those who disagree.

    Whatever that means. You seem fixated on perfect worlds, emeraldctyangel, but they just don't exist, not in this life. That does not mean that we should cease trying to make this one a little bit better.
    Lame-o attempt at insult noted.
     
  5. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    I don't know where you got your numbers but this comes from the Senate web site.

    </font>[/QUOTE]The source is clearly posted.

    There is no conflict with the numbers you posted. Your source used different parameters.
     
  6. StraightAndNarrow

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    What is the source? I don't see it in your post.
     
  7. Daisy

    Daisy New Member

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    Here's a poem from someone recently returned from Iraq:
    Just trying to present more povs, 'cause we don't want to be one-sided.
     
  8. Priscilla Ann

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    [​IMG] Hi, Daisy! I always look forward to your posts!

    PA
     
  9. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://www.whoserved.com/index.asp

    Sorry. It was on the next page.
     
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