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How Strongly Do You Hold to Your Doctrinal Beliefs?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reformed, Jan 4, 2020.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Asked and answered dozens of times. The answer is God credits the faith of those He chooses and puts in Christ. Such a simple doctrine.

    Calvinists deny the lost can hear the gospel and put their faith in Christ. Thus all the verses that say your faith, my faith, his faith do not mean what they say, instead Calvinist add your God gifted and irresistibly instilled faith, my God gifted and irresistible instilled faith, and his God gifted and irresistibly instilled faith.

    A doctrine that must add, delete and alter the text is bogus.
     
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    Ok, so to be clear, you believe everyone has faith and they must choose whether or not to excercise it? Am I understanding you correctly?

    And to be clear, the Calvinist position doesn't add or delete anything. You have shown you don't understand what we believe or preach so you are hardly qualified to comment on it. I am asking what you teach/preach/believe.
     
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    Note no quote is ever offered to present my view. Instead these derailers misrepresent my view so I must waste time addressing the error.

    How many people come to believe without being drawn by the Father. Zip

    And also note the denial of this post: Calvinists deny the lost can hear the gospel and put their faith in Christ. Thus all the verses that say your faith, my faith, his faith do not mean what they say, instead Calvinist add your God gifted and irresistibly instilled faith, my God gifted and irresistible instilled faith, and his God gifted and irresistibly instilled faith. Thus Calvinism adds to verses to change the meaning.
     
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    Ok, you realize that is the Calvinist position right?

    Except I quoted your post...
     
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    On and on they address the poster and not the position, they are derailers of any actual discussion.
     
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    Kind of like this post of yours? No actual discussion of what you are responding to?
     
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    We have all here given you a literal mountain worth of scriptures to support our position, and to show where your theology is lacking, but you just keep on refusing to listen to anything that does not fit your preconceived theology mindset!
     
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    We at least quote scriptures in context!
     
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