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  1. PackerBacker

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    Just received the following question on a missionary questionnaire. Curious how many of you would have answered it. Short answers please.

    Do you believe the King James Bible is the only true Bible to be the word of God to the English speaking people and all other so-called Bibles such as the NKJV, NIV, NASV, Etc. are not the word of God and are the works of the devil?
     
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  2. Searcher

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    I would say: I believe the NKJV is a good translation of the underlaying texts. People have used the NKJV to come to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. In this, the NKJV is no different than any of the other translations.

    Searcher.
     
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  3. rhoneycutt

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    No
     
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  4. Chris Temple

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PackerBacker:
    Just received the following question on a missionary questionnaire. Curious how many of you would have answered it. Short answers please.

    Do you believe the King James Bible is the only true Bible to be the word of God to the English speaking people and all other so-called Bibles such as the NKJV, NIV, NASV, Etc. are not the word of God and are the works of the devil?     <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Uh, let me think ..NO! :mad:
     
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  5. TomVols

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    My answer would have three parts:
    <UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>No<LI>No<LI>No[/list]

    :cool:
     
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  6. Scott J

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    No is the correct answer...and just out of curiosity, who posed the question? If you don't want to name them, was it a church, missions, board, fellowship/convention, etc.?
     
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  7. Rev. Joshua

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    How would I answer?

    You mean after I got my breath back from laughing so hard?

    :rolleyes:

    Joshua
     
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  8. Chick Daniels

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    My answer would be non-verbal. The questionaire would quickly find the round file. Whatever they were selling, I am not interested in buying.
     
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  9. Ransom

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    PackerBacker said:

    Just received the following question on a missionary questionnaire.

    Just out of curiosity, what is a "missionary questionnaire"? Are you applying to become a missionary, or is this a missionary trying to raise funds (and presumably screen out all that NASB-loving blood money), or a fundraiser trying to find missionaries (and trying to export his particular doctrinal quirks to darkest Africa where they neither know nor care what a "King James Bible" is)?

    Do you believe the King James Bible is the only true Bible to be the word of God to the English speaking people and all other so-called Bibles such as the NKJV, NIV, NASV, Etc. are not the word of God and are the works of the devil?

    No. Next question?

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  10. PackerBacker

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Scott J:
    No is the correct answer...and just out of curiosity, who posed the question? If you don't want to name them, was it a church, missions, board, fellowship/convention, etc.?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Scott,

    It was a supporting IFB church of ours that just got a new pastor. The new pastor is trying to figure out where the missionaries of the church stand. It was obvious from the other many questions that a "no" answer would not be acceptable.
     
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  11. rsr

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    I would wonder how I got on such a mailing list. ;)
     
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  12. PackerBacker

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    Ransom,

    A missionary questionnaire is list of questions that some churches require a missionary to fill out if they are: 1. Trying to receive support to get to the field, 2. A new pastor wants to check out the missionaries they inherited. 3. Or a few churches send them out every year to a missionary on the field. The questions on these surveys range from intelligent to bizarre. A friend of mine even got one asking what his wife wore in public, in the home, and when sleeping. This was a question checking to see if the missionary wife wore "slacks." I would have had a blast with that one if sent to me. :D
     
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  13. PackerBacker

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rsr:
    Packerbacker:
    I would wonder how I got on such a mailing list. ;)    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    When you go to over 80 churches on deputation, you never know what you are going to find. What makes matters worse is when a church that seemed fine before, gets a new pastor with a different way of thinking. This is one of the Cons of raising support in IFB circles.

    By the way, how would you answer the question?

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  14. Ernie Brazee

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    Packer Backer it would be only honest to tell the questioning church what your stand is on all the issues on the list. Supporting churches have a right to know your stand is. if you aren't in agreement with tem do you expect them to bend to your will?

    It is sad to see people mock other people for their beliefs while provlaiming theirs as the only way.

    Some pastors do have standardsa nd the Lord is blessing their churches because of it. Who are you people here to mock them for standing for righteousness, and holiness?

    Kinda like the scribes and pharisees the Lord called hypocrtites

    Ernie
     
    #14 Ernie Brazee, Feb 2, 2002
  15. Pastor Larry

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PackerBacker:
    It was a supporting IFB church of ours that just got a new pastor. The new pastor is trying to figure out where the missionaries of the church stand. It was obvious from the other many questions that a "no" answer would not be acceptable.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Are you in an English speaking country? I would do what someone else suggested (Joshua?? ... I hope not [​IMG]) I would file it in the trash. Actually I would probably talk to him about it and confront him on his false teaching, assuming he was expecting a yes answer.
     
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  16. Pastor Larry

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ernie Brazee:
    It is sad to see people mock other people for their beliefs while provlaiming theirs as the only way.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Tell us about it. It seems that in a lot of thread you have been mocking and condemning others for their beliefs that are different from yours on this issue.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Who are you people here to mock them for standing for righteousness, and holiness?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Standing on the KJV is not an issue of righteousness or holiness. It is an issue of being ill informed on the issues.

    A supporting church does have the right to know what they are supporting. You are right on that. I have a similar question on our missionary questionnaire and if anyone answered it with a "Yes" they would automatically be eliminated from consideration.
     
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  17. PackerBacker

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    Dear Ernie,

    Nice to hear from you again. It’s been awhile since we chatted.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ernie Brazee:
    Packer Backer it would be only honest to tell the questioning church what your stand is on all the issues on the list. Supporting churches have a right to know your stand is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Could not agree more with you that I need to be honest to the questions asked by a supporting church. Just so you know, I did reply and answer the question honestly. Don’t run away this time and I’ll share my answer after seeing how a few others would have answered the question.


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    if you aren't in agreement with tem do you expect them to bend to your will?     <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Don’t know why you said this? I don’t recall saying anything about wanting a supporting church to bend to my will. Is this another one of those secret revelations you get about me, like the one that led you to question my salvation and love for the Lord? :rolleyes: I started the thread asking how people, including you, would answer the question I received. A short yes or no answer would be sufficient.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>
    It is sad to see people mock other people for their beliefs while provlaiming theirs as the only way. Some pastors do have standardsa nd the Lord is blessing their churches because of it. Who are you people here to mock them for standing for righteousness, and holiness? Kinda like the scribes and pharisees the Lord called hypocrtites

    Ernie    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Pastor Larry did a fine job replying to this section so I’ll not repeat it.

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  18. Ernie Brazee

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    Hmmm, so posting scripture to back my concictions, taking a stand for my conviction is mocking? Well sorry to hera that. I have not run away, just won't waste my time debating. I try to post bible to enforce what I believe, but sometimes i'm not elquent enought to get the point across. it is this reason in most (I know not all) cases i try to post scripture.

    Ernie
     
    #18 Ernie Brazee, Feb 3, 2002
  19. Pastor Larry

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ernie Brazee:
    Hmmm, so posting scripture to back my concictions, taking a stand for my conviction is mocking? Well sorry to hera that. I have not run away, just won't waste my time debating. I try to post bible to enforce what I believe, but sometimes i'm not elquent enought to get the point across. it is this reason in most (I know not all) cases i try to post scripture.

    Ernie    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I guess I missed the verse where standing for the KJV is a matter of righteousness or holiness. On second thought, I am quite sure you didn't post one [​IMG].

    Ernie, there are no verses to support the claim that one translation is the perfect, inspired, preserved Word of God. There are principles that might argue for one over the other; But it is a not a matter of clearly revealed truth.

    I previously said that if someone answered my question with an affirmative on being KJV Only then it would automatically disqualify them from support from our church. The reason is that pastors and missionaries are required to be doctrinally sound. If someone is KJVOnly they are either 1) misinformed as to the issue or 2) willfully ignoring the issues. Either way, they are not conforming their beliefs to the biblical doctrine of inspiration.
     
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  20. DocCas

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    I agree with Ernie. Honesty is of the utmost importance. If the missionary disagrees with the supporting churches stance on issues deemed to be important to the supporting church, he should be honest and say so. And the supporting church should be just as open and honest as to what it believes. Our church presently has over 20 missionaries on the foreign field which we support monthly. I have questioned each of them concerning what they believe. There are always going to be some areas of disagreement, but, on those issues important to our church, we must have agreement. Missionary questionaires are a means of discerning where a missionary stands on doctrinal/practical issues. If the missionary doesn't want to take the time to fill out the questionaire, fine, but he should not expect the supporting church to take the time to write out the support check. Missions support is a two way street. We have had missionaries who refused to answer our questionaire, and other who put a copy of their doctrinal statement in with the questionaire. We evaluate each one on and individual basis, and support those who believe will teach and preach what we believe and build churches which we would be glad to fellowship with. It seems very simple to me. [​IMG]
     
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