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I found me another heretic..

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by ReformedBaptist, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    :laugh:

    Truly though. Let's play name that heretic. Who said:

    "It is possible for someone who does not know Jesus to be saved. But anyone who is going to be saved is going to be saved by Jesus"

    No googling!

    -RB
     
  2. Amy.G

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    Pinoybaptist. :)
     
  3. Johnv

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    Regardless of who said it, one would need to know the context of the statement.
     
  4. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like a true liberal. :laugh:


    The quote is taken from an evangelistic role-play the author made up and put in his website. Here is the immediate context:

    "But I still struggle with how I should view those who have other beliefs. I'm not sure I am ready to condemn them as wrong. I know some very good Buddhists. What is their destiny?"

    I would take her to Romans 2:6-10: "God will give to each person according to what he has done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger."

    What Paul is clearly saying is that if anyone is worthy of being saved, they will be saved. At that point many Christians get very anxious, saying that absolutely no one is worthy of being saved. The implication of that is that a person can be almost totally good, but miss the message about Jesus, and be sent to hell. What kind of a God would do that? I am not going to stand in the way of anyone whom God wants to save. I am not going to say "he can't save them." I am happy for God to save anyone he wants in any way he can. It is possible for someone who does not know Jesus to be saved. But anyone who is going to be saved is going to be saved by Jesus: "There is no other name given under heaven by which men can be saved."


    The statement alone is heresy. The context doesn't add or take away from the meaning.
     
  5. Johnv

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    It's liberal to want to know the context of what was said?? I thought that was a conservative position. Or maybe it's only a conservative position when a liberal takes something which a conservative said out of context.
     
  6. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you take yourself too seriously.
     
  7. Johnv

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    Perhaps. I should probably extend more grace to namecallers.
     
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    Again, as 2 Timothy 4:3 says, people will turn away from sound doctrine and turn aside to all sorts of myths. People like that are coming out of the woodwork. :rolleyes:
     
  9. ReformedBaptist

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    Yes, you should. You get yer lil' feeler hurt too easily. :laugh:
     
  10. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    No kidding. How men liek this gain a Christian audience makes no sense to me other than by the Scripture you quoted.
     
  11. Thinkingstuff

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    What it Steve or Bob. Maybe Harry, or Charles?
     
  12. Johnv

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    You're right. Makes it easier to deal with unrighteous gossipers like yourself.
     
  13. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    wow, first you whine about being called a liberal then you come back with this?

    How bout you stop gettin your panties in a bundle and talk about the OP.

    Here's a flower to make you happy..:flower:
     
  14. Johnv

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    ??? I thought you believed in extending more grace to namecallers. I guess you got YOUR lil' feeler hurt too easily. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
    Already did. On the surface, it should like a statement inconsistent with scripture, but it's wise to know the context of what was said before accusing someone of heresy. You seem to think that wanting to know context makes one a liberal. Whassupwiddat???
     
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  15. ReformedBaptist

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    You think my reponse was a result of being hurt? :laugh:

    These internet jocks sound like whiney girls.
     
  16. Amy.G

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    Amen. Just look in the mirror.
     
  17. ReformedBaptist

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    Because the statement stands by itself. But I gave you the context and will shortly reveal who this knuckle head is with the article link.

    Perhaps you will stand on two feet then instead of dancing around?

    More flowers for you :flower::flower:
     
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    Carico, while pretty staunch in his calvinism, isn't turning away from the Scripture. Why would you accuse him of such?
     
  19. Thinkingstuff

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    Wait I know. Hakeem. No wait.... Abdulah.... No.... Maybe.... Carl Barth.... John Knox.... Steven Hawkins... Charles Darwin....... I'm all out of guesses.
     
  20. ReformedBaptist

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    Ladies and gentlemen, behold...the only man, while in jest, that actually tried to guess the author...which was the OP.

    Big cookie for you.

    Here is the article: http://www.dwillard.org/articles/artview.asp?artID=14

    Dallas Willard is the poop head that wrote it.
     
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