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I was sad when they hanged Saddam

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TaliOrlando, Jan 2, 2007.

  1. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    Clear up what? You're right.
     
  2. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza New Member

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    I am always amazed at how quickly you and ....... can pull out the straw men.

    Please grow up. A little.

    (Do not use names - as you did in this post.)
     
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  3. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    An unborn child has done nothing to be punished for. Saddam has done much...

    There is no comparison between abortion and the death penalty except an aborted baby was given the death penalty without a trial.
     
  4. JonC

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    I agree with the death penalty and am pro-life when it comes to abortion. I see no comparison or conflict between the two.

    The death penalty is a penalty for criminal actions. You may agree or disagree with the death penalty, but I find it hard to fathom that you see no difference.

    The same applies to war. For example, I think that we were right to enter war with Germany – although I think that we would have been justified to enter the war solely to prevent the slaughter of the Jewish citizens. However, there were many innocent people killed through the war process.
     
  5. tragic_pizza

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    Either way, we play God.

    But hey, if you think the government is qualified to play God, then more power to ya...
     
  6. JonC

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    There is a difference between “playing God” and being responsible.
     
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    Nope. With the death penalty, we obey God.
     
  8. tragic_pizza

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    Oh, yeah. I forgot that whole "the New Testament only applies to people I like" thing. Sorry.
     
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    Can you show me anywhere in the NT where God retracted the death penalty?
     
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    If someone lies to God, should we put them to death? God did...in the New Testament (Annanais and Saphirra).
     
  11. tragic_pizza

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    The key: GOD did. Not Peter. Not you. Not me.

    The death penalty was used against Christians in the New Testament.
     
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    Was it a death penalty, though, regardless? Did he spare their lives because in the "New Testament" the death penalty had been abolished?
     
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    It is the responsibility of the civil government to
    punish murders. I have no proplem with the government of Iraq
    punishing this mass murderer.

    1 Peter 2:13-16 (KJV1611 Edition):
    Submit your selues to euery ordinance
    of man for the Lordes sake, whether it be to the King,
    as supreme,
    14 Or vnto gouernours, as vnto them
    that are sent by him,
    for the punishment of euil doers,

    and for the praise of them that doe well.
    15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing
    yee may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men.
    16 As free, and not vsing your libertie for a cloake
    of maliciousnesse, but as the seruants of God.
     
  14. tragic_pizza

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    God passed the sentence and carried it out.

    If God wants someone to die, does God need our help? Not so far.
     
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    It's not whether God needs our help...it's what God commands. He doesn't need our help in spreading the Gospel, either, but He has declared that we do so. As Ed pointed out, He uses men to punish offences against Him and others, as well to carry out His will.
     
  16. tragic_pizza

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    Nice how when the government does things we like, they're working for God, huh?
     
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    What evidence do you have that the death penalty was abolished in the New Testament?
     
  18. tragic_pizza

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    We only keep the parts of the Law we like, after all...
     
  19. DHK

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    "We" as in whom? Christians are always in the minority, and we don't make the laws. In fact Christians are to submit to the authorities that are above us, whatever those authorities may be. In Paul's day it was the government of Nero. Paul never complained or said anything against the governmental form of execution. He knew his fate. He was about to be beheaded for his faith. "I know that my departure is at hand," he said. "No one stood with me," at my last trial, he testified. He knew what lied ahead, and yet never said anything against capital punishment.
    We are to submit to the government we have--we deserve. God, for the most part--gives us the government that we deserve. We are commanded to submit to it--whether that means captial punishment or not. Personally, I believe that capital punishment is Biblical, and that the principal set forth in Gen.9:6 has never been rescinded.

    Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds man's blood, by man will his blood be shed, for in the image of God made he man.
     
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    This is Traggic Pizza's view...not mine. I'm in agreement with you.
     
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