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Illegal immigration
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Magnetic Poles
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To blame the country's ills on 3 percent of the population is a misinformed position.
Trotter
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3%? You haven't been around here, then.
Walk into any emergency room around these parts. 50-75% will be Hispanic, with only a couple who can speak understandable English. 90-100% of them will have no insurance, or be on Tenncare (our state medicare program that can't help actual American citizens due to being overrun by foreigners). It would be extremely rare to see one of them injured; instead, they are there with a cold, or the flu, or a sore back. In other words, they are using government funds to pay for the most expensive care for non-serious ailments.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Try strolling into the Department of Human Services offices. Oh, and bring an interpretor because there will be very few in the waiting room who are from north of the Rio Grande. Same thing with the Social Security office (how can someone who has never worked here draw Social Security? Beats the snot out of me!). Or the Drivers License Testing Center (if you can't speak or read English, why are you allowed to drive as all the signs and notifications are in English???).
Basically, any government program or help is flooded by Hispanics, both legal and illegal. But Hispanics are not the only foreigners around here. We have a large Slavic population, but you don't see them lined up for a dole. Same with Hindus, Asians, Africans, etc. Of course, these are all legal immigrants as they couldn't swim across the ocean. The main difference is that they are out working and trying to make a living for themselves and their families. Yes, some Hispanics do, too... but many don't and won't. They'll work off the books so that it doesn't interfere with their handouts (I have seen it for many, many years), or they will work if they can give a bogus SS number (seen that, too, when I worked in Dalton, Georgia).
This is a sore spot for me as I am without a job and have been for quite a while. I am making due, but I am not lined up with my hand out. If I were, I would be turned down because I am a citizen. I know as I tried when things were at their worst and was flat out told that I could bot get assistance since I was a citizen of the state of Tennessee and a natural born American.
I pray a lot about this, and the Lord is working on my heart. But, from where I stand, I am very cold-hearted about it and would love to ship each and every one back to where they came from... and have them pay for their own ticket.
Walk into any emergency room around these parts. 50-75% will be Hispanic, with only a couple who can speak understandable English. 90-100% of them will have no insurance, or be on Tenncare (our state medicare program that can't help actual American citizens due to being overrun by foreigners). It would be extremely rare to see one of them injured; instead, they are there with a cold, or the flu, or a sore back. In other words, they are using government funds to pay for the most expensive care for non-serious ailments.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Try strolling into the Department of Human Services offices. Oh, and bring an interpretor because there will be very few in the waiting room who are from north of the Rio Grande. Same thing with the Social Security office (how can someone who has never worked here draw Social Security? Beats the snot out of me!). Or the Drivers License Testing Center (if you can't speak or read English, why are you allowed to drive as all the signs and notifications are in English???).
Basically, any government program or help is flooded by Hispanics, both legal and illegal. But Hispanics are not the only foreigners around here. We have a large Slavic population, but you don't see them lined up for a dole. Same with Hindus, Asians, Africans, etc. Of course, these are all legal immigrants as they couldn't swim across the ocean. The main difference is that they are out working and trying to make a living for themselves and their families. Yes, some Hispanics do, too... but many don't and won't. They'll work off the books so that it doesn't interfere with their handouts (I have seen it for many, many years), or they will work if they can give a bogus SS number (seen that, too, when I worked in Dalton, Georgia).
This is a sore spot for me as I am without a job and have been for quite a while. I am making due, but I am not lined up with my hand out. If I were, I would be turned down because I am a citizen. I know as I tried when things were at their worst and was flat out told that I could bot get assistance since I was a citizen of the state of Tennessee and a natural born American.
I pray a lot about this, and the Lord is working on my heart. But, from where I stand, I am very cold-hearted about it and would love to ship each and every one back to where they came from... and have them pay for their own ticket.
I didn't see anything in the linked article that blamed any of the country's ills on anyone - let alone on illegal aliens.
You must have been reading a different article?
Magnetic Poles
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I read the linked one, but again friend, you are myopic in your view of the bigger picture. I was referring to people like my former congressman, Tom Tancredo, who's xenophobic speech at the recent Tea Bag convention echoes the thoughts of many who do blame illegal immigrants for the country's ills.
Trotter, the article says 10.8 million illegal immigrants are in the US. In a nation of 300 million, my quick, in my head math says that is approximately 3 percent of the population.
Hope you find a suitable job soon, my brother.
So what you are saying is that you went off topic from why illegal immigrants are supposedly leaving to people blaming illegal immigrants for the county's ills.
What does your little percentage calculation add to the discussion as to why illegal immigrants are supposedly leaving the U.S.?
Magnetic Poles
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I know you live to agitate, but the fact is, my comments were not off topic at all. The OP asked for thoughts after reading the article. That is what I responded with. You really need to get over your fascination with me, and quit trying to derail every thread.
The OP asked for thoughts on the article - not your stream of consciousness on illegal immigration.
Magnetic Poles
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At least I have a lucid "stream of consciousness". Try it sometime. :tongue3:
Your constant niggling is more of a derail than any post that is related to the topic.
Which, let me add, shows it is not any perceived "off topic" issues that concern you; rather it is your unnatural fascination with me. Yet your repeated refusal to answer questions posed to you in other threads also show you to be just an agitator. BTW, who appointed you the arbiter of what posts are on topic?
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More anti-Evolution claptrap.
You want your kids to be apple pickers?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011069760_brewster14.html
550 people laid off in Brewster, WA, because of a lack of proper ID. Story says that is about a quarter of the town's population. One farmer told the reporter that his only white employee is his his office manager. Not one white person has asked for job since this depression began.
Do you want to pay $3/pound for apples? Do you want your kids to be migrant farm workers? Do you want to buy apples from China? Or should we let Mexicans come here to pick apples?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011069760_brewster14.html
550 people laid off in Brewster, WA, because of a lack of proper ID. Story says that is about a quarter of the town's population. One farmer told the reporter that his only white employee is his his office manager. Not one white person has asked for job since this depression began.
Do you want to pay $3/pound for apples? Do you want your kids to be migrant farm workers? Do you want to buy apples from China? Or should we let Mexicans come here to pick apples?
Who is offended by "tea bag" ?
This was offered in the spirit of MP, BTW—seeing the "big picture", "stream of conciousness", etc. You, know . . . completely off topic.
Just incase anyone missed it . . .
Magnetic Poles
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Which is exactly how I used it...as a noun. I purposely did not use the verb form, but I do feel it is silly to let a group co-opt a perfectly good word.
Several years ago our local newspaper published the results of in-depth research they had done on how our local economy would be impacted if all illegal immigrants were taken back to their home countries. They reported that:
1. almost all construction projects would be halted in their tracks
2. quite a number of restaurants would have to close
3. almost all lawn services would be out of business
4. most home/industrial cleaning services would be out of business
There was more, but I cannot remember the other findings at the moment.
Ever think about how much it would cost to deport 12 million people? I man just the airline tickets alone, whew.....................
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