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Imminency - Not Found in the Bible

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Repent_and_Believe, Aug 7, 2004.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you brother Natters.
    You need to move past "simile" and
    on to an understanding of "metaphor".

    I've bolded the simile indicating words above.
    The word "type" (or it's plural "types")
    does not appear in the KJV1769.
    #1 and #4 above are metaphor types.
    Jesus taught in parables (metaphors).
     
  2. natters

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    Simile and metaphor are figures of speech, elements of our language. A type is not a figure of speech, but can use figures of speech in its explanation.

    I don't understand your point about the word "type" not appearing in the KJV.

    Priests of the OT are a type of Christ, and the earthly tabernacle was an example of the heavenly one (Heb 4:3-5).

    I've yet to find a Biblical reference for Rev 4:1 being a shadow, a type, or a comparison to a pretrib rapture.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    I have yet
    to find most of what you said was a Bible
    type being clearly denoted in as such in
    the Bible.


    IF such were available, it would
    denote a clear reference that the "type"
    existed. Otherwise, we have a variance of
    opinions. I believe that the taking of
    John to heaven in Revelation 4:1 is
    a type of the rapture to the church.

    I also note that Revelation shows the
    same pattern of the present and future
    as do other passages that I have cited.

    The timeline according to Revelation:

    0. church age continues - Rev 2-3 &lt;== you are here!
    1. rapture/resurrection - Rev 4:1 (type)
    2. Tribulation time - Rev 4:2-19:10
    3. Second Advent of Jesus event - Rev 19:11-21
    4. literal MK=millinnial kingdom - Rev 20:1-6
    5. new heaven & new earth - Rev 20:7-22:5

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  4. natters

    natters New Member

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    Ed Edwards, the problem is that "types" are not identifiable until after the fact. It is too subjective and biased to identify them before they occur. "types" can be found for anything you want to find, and we have no way of identifying which types are legitimate.
     
  5. danrusdad

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    Don't bother debating Ed guys. I've tried, it's like banging your head against a wall.

    He lets his belief (in a pre-trib/imminent rapture) drive his interpretation (jumping 7 years back and forth in MT 24 with no scriptural justification), rather than letting the scriptures speak for themselves and coming to a belief afterward.
     
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