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Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

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  1. FollowTheWay

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    3/8/2020

    From the beginning, the Trump administration’s attempts to forestall an outbreak of a virus now spreading rapidly across the globe was marked by a raging internal debate about how far to go in telling Americans the truth. Even as the government’s scientists and leading health experts raised the alarm early and pushed for aggressive action, they faced resistance and doubt at the White House — especially from the president — about spooking financial markets and inciting panic.

    “It’s going to all work out,” Mr. Trump said as recently as Thursday night. “Everybody has to be calm. It’s going to work out.”

    Health experts say that telling people to remain calm is an effective message in an epidemic, and it is appropriate that it come from the president. Clear, honest communication is also crucial, and the United States has at times criticized China and other governments for being less than transparent.

    Mr. Azar was at his home in suburban Washington, on Friday, Jan. 3, when Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the C.D.C.’s director, called to tell him China had potentially discovered a new coronavirus. Mr. Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive who helped manage the response to earlier SARS and anthrax outbreaks, told his chief of staff to make sure that the National Security Council was aware.

    This is a very big deal, Mr. Azar told him.

    By the end of January, the virus was veering out of control in China, the source of 23,000 visitors to the United States each day. Any one of them could be the trigger for a new and undetected American outbreak.

    By Thursday, Jan. 30, the public health officials had come around. Mr. Azar, Dr. Redfield and Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, agreed that a ban on travel from the epidemic’s center could buy some time to put into place prevention and testing measures. “There was so much we didn’t know about this virus,” Dr. Redfield said in an interview. “We were rapidly understanding it was much more transmissible, that it had a great ability to go global.”

    Still, Mr. Trump was publicly upbeat about the effects of the virus. At a campaign rally in New Hampshire in early February, as the World Health Organization was announcing new cases by the tens of thousands, he said of the coronavirus, “By April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

    Ten weeks after the virus first emerged in China, the total number of confirmed cases in the world surged past 100,000 and public health experts warned darkly that the outbreak was far from over. The United States, they said, faces weeks, if not months, of uncertainty and continued disruptions in education, businesses, commerce, medicine, government and daily life.

    “Time matters,” Dr. Redfield said in an interview on Friday.

    But the president still has his bullhorn. During his visit to the C.D.C., Mr. Trump told reporters that he was not inclined to let 21 people who tested positive for the virus on a cruise ship off the coast of California onto American soil.

    “They would like to have the people come off,” he said. “I would like to have the people stay.” The president said he would allow health experts to make the final decision, but he made clear again where he stood.

    His concern? It would increase the tally for the number of people infected in the United States. “Because I like the numbers being where they are,” the president said.
     
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    Another up-to-the-minute report from March 8th by FollowTheWay!

    From the article:
    By Thursday, Jan. 30, the public health officials had come around. Mr. Azar, Dr. Redfield and Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, agreed that a ban on travel from the epidemic’s center could buy some time to put into place prevention and testing measures. “There was so much we didn’t know about this virus,” Dr. Redfield said in an interview. “We were rapidly understanding it was much more transmissible, that it had a great ability to go global.”

    Still, Mr. Trump was publicly upbeat about the effects of the virus.

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    Trump was upbeat about the effects of the virus? Then why in the world did he ban travel from China on JANUARY 31st? The very NEXT DAY after public health officials "came around" and recommended a travel ban?

    Also, there is nothing in the article you quoted about a "debate raging" within the administration. Your link is dead so I can't read the whole article to further fact check it.

    Fail.
     
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    Surely you aren't surprised - - - are you???
     
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    So mr/ms/mrs FTW, what do you have to say about your heroes porking up the bill that is supposed to supply needed funds for this virus fight???
    Just ONE more proof that your party is far more interested in corruption that the welfare of the nation; a fact that has been true for decades, but it took their hatred of Trump for them(y'all?) to be exposed!!
     
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    Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public
     
    #5 FollowTheWay, Mar 24, 2020
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    It's a NYT article, so the reporting is quite biased, as to be expected, with the headline an intentional grabber left unfulfilled by the content.

    The administration was clearly dealing with significant unknowns and an entirely culpable, yet entirely uncooperative Chinese Communist regime.

    Trump surrounded himself with good advisors to hash out the options, then made the right decisions, the best decisions.

    Oh, and anyone not wanting to keep the number of US coronavirus cases down is neither pro-America nor pro-American. Thank God Trump is POTUS rather than any of the Dems. I know I do.
     
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    Communist countries like China don't tell their people the truth about what's going on. That's how the Trump administration is treating America.
     
    #7 FollowTheWay, Mar 25, 2020
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    Like when under Obama e]watch, IRS was told to make sure those pesky conservative and religious group got audited for no reason? Or when Fast and Furious gun fiasco happened?
     
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    So what, Trump preferred not to list those people that caught the virus on a cruise ship as US cases. They were Americans but they didn't catch it here, so it's reasonable not to know exactly which category to put them in.

    Orange man bad. Orange man lie. Remember what your party was doing on Thursday, Jan. 30, Paul? Crying and trying to impeach and remove orange man, that's what. Orange man bad!!!
     
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    That was the debate. What is being said now and for the last week or so?
     
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    That statement is the epitome of ignorance and deception. The Communist Chinese regime deceived the entire world—the entire world—regarding their coronavirus outbreak, deliberately unleashed it on the world, then tried to blame the fiasco on the US.
     
    #11 RighteousnessTemperance&, Mar 25, 2020
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    Camel swallowers may never grasp why reasonable persons think their gnat-straining a vice.
     
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    No hes not. Fake news.
     
    #13 Revmitchell, Mar 26, 2020
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    Or, "You can keep your dr. ----! Or, "Your insurance will save the average family $2500 per year!" (OR WHAT EVER THAT MYTHICAL FIGURE WAS.) Or, "Those jobs will never come back to America!"
    And those are just what I can quickly recall, no telling how many more li - er - a Mis-leading statements he made!!:Devilish:Devilish:Devilish
     
    #14 just-want-peace, Mar 26, 2020
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    I provided an updated link. You're up now.
     
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    Coronavirus status 3-26-20.jpg
     
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    Coronavirus Cases 3-26-20.jpg
     
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    Trump's recovery plan does NOTHING to add resources to fight this pandemic. It only supports the economy and especially corporations.
     
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    One of Trump's plans to add resources to fight the pandemic was announced on March 13, 2020.

    Trump declares national emergency, frees up $50B to fight virus
    Trump said the move would free up $50 billion in additional funding and waive requirements to speed up coronavirus testing and care.

    Speaking from the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said, “I am officially declaring a national emergency.” He said it would free up as much as $50 billion for state and local governments to respond to the outbreak.

    Mr. Trump said he was giving Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar emergency authorities to waive federal regulations and laws to give doctors and hospitals “flexibility” in treating patients.

    He also announced a new public-private partnership to expand coronavirus testing capabilities, as his administration has come under fire for being too slow in making the test available.

    Trump declares national emergency, frees up $50B to fight virus
     
    #19 InTheLight, Mar 26, 2020
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    If the economy tanks and we go into Great Depression, we will Vastly more important long term effects!
     
    #20 Yeshua1, Mar 26, 2020
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