Inspired Bible

yet we all know better that the English of the KJV is NOT common English in any day.

Now explain why the KJV came out from under the confines of England and is so widely accepted to every English speaking people?

Could is just POSSIBLY be it is inspired!

 

I'll let Ehud answer you, too, but where is this "truth traded for a lie"?

I rather respect a man who doesn't weeble and wobble from translation to translation with an expectation for everyone else to bow to their knowledge and presumed understandings about Scripture when we already have the KJV.

The English of the KJV is in a form uncommon to man that even the commonest of men can read and comprehend when they are looking at the word of God with Light from within. That is what the verse refers to.

Learn the truth about Scripture and it will help your misguided thinkings about what is actually the truth from what is a lie.

 

Well, "Trottie", forgive me for my misunderstanding.

I do not agree the ESV is actually the equal of the KJV, and never will. Good reason, too.

You seem to limit the inspired word of God in English to these two translations. In comparison the ESV is lacking.

 

I do not limit it to the two. The ESV is my current bible so I tend to mention it more, but there are many, many others that contain God's inspired words.

As for comparison, that can go several ways and is a discussion best left to another thread. You have your thoughts on the matter and I have mine and we'll get along as brothers in Christ regardless.

 

It is not accurate - at least -to claim that the WCF, LBCF, et.al., claimed inspiration for a translation, and there's only about a thousand sources that would dispel such a notion.

 

Why do you get so perturbed about talk regarding the originals? You're not denying they existed, are you?

I'm sure you have proof for this wild claim (insert crickets sound here).

DHK just explained to you (despite your insults) his view on preservation. Quit being so obtuse.

...just that I'd put your comment in perspective...

You seriously don't want to start "counting offenses," do you? I'm afraid you'd lose by pretty much any metric you'd employ there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

 

The copy of the Bible I read inspires me. Surely that counts for something. One bible I like was written by a liberal theologian...Imagine that!

Cheers,

Jim

 

1. If translations don’t proceed from the mouth of God we are living on sourdough.

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘People do not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
Matthew 4:4 TNIV
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2. Paul refers to the Scriptures that Timothy used calling them holy and inspired.
Timothy probably used portions of a Greek translation of Scripture.

2 Timothy 3:15-17
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3. Every reference in the N.T. to the Scriptures refers to what was known through copies of it.

Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel, the message I proclaim about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all the Gentiles might come to faith and obedience—to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.
Romans 16:25-27 TNIV


For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.
Romans 15:4 TNIV
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Matthew 21:42; Matthew 22:29; Matthew 26:54; Mark 12:10; Luke 4:21
John 5:39; John 10:35; Acts 8:30-35; 1 Peter 2:6
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4. N.T. authors attribute God’s authoritative words made available to them through a translation.

Acts 28:25-27; Heb 3:7-11; 10:15-17 (Joel 2:28–32);
Matthew 24:15, 17-18; 1 Timothy 5:18
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5. N.T. authors (and even Jesus) paraphrased O.T. Scripture.

John 7:37-39; Romans 11:8; James 4:5;
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Rob

 

Why? Because a comma or colon is missing?
How far do you intend to carry this argument?

 

Apparently we're all wrong and the canon is not closed after all. I mean, if God is inspiring translations above and beyond His given word...

 

Benny Hinn might agree with that.

 

How far? I'm jus' reading the Scriptures.

I'm sure the ancient readers knew that there were differences between versions

but inerrancy didn't seem to be the defining issue when these statements were made.

Rob

 

It is a historical fact that the KJV became widely accepted because the English government made it illegal to own or possess any other translation. Even after that decree, it took many decades for the Anglican King James Bible to overcome the more popular Protestant Church’s Geneva Bible.

How is Ps138 scriptural support for the idea that the KJV is the only translation which is inspired?

 

Inerrancy was never a defining issue until liberalism raised its ugly head around the time of Westcott and Hort near the mid to the end of the 19th century. It was never an issue before that time. When it began to spread to America men like W.B. Riley stood up against the spread of modernism in America.

 

Um, after 1776, and even before, the English government had no control, whatsoever in America .

You have used conjecture here.

Ps 138 is proof that the Bible is inspired.

I cannot fathom why you insist I have ever said only the KJV is inspired, I have never said that.

Again, you're using conjecture with a strong aroma of proliferation of what I've said.

 

Interjection of punctuation as some sort of anything concerning a typo is not what inspiration is all about. It's about the message being communicated and the exact translation of any passage with multiple applications of that passage within the context of other Scriptures without ever, EVER causing a contradiction!

Scripture doesn't ever contradict Scripture, by either interpretation or application, when it is according to II Tim 3:16.:godisgood:

My children's homeschool lessons read their data and include "12:00 am" as "Twelve, colon, 0,0 am", but don't see where the Lord would ever speak the punctuation marks.

I'll carry the "arguement" all the way to the Judgement Seat of Christ in that I will maintain a higher standard than any modernist on the subject of inspiration!:thumbsup:

"Harold dances much like David did before the Lord: just like a frolicking lamb at play in a fertile green meadow with birds a singing and butterflies a flittering amongst the flowers of the Garden of God!":flower: