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Featured Is Creation BY or THROUGH Jesus Christ? PT 2

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by percho, Jan 19, 2022.

  1. atpollard

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    If you knew, then why did you ask what it meant? ;)
     
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    In your opinion what was the greatest test of summiting to temptation (sinning) did he face?

    What did he learn from it?
     
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    In case I could learn more :Biggrin
     
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    The difference being was the knowledge of good and evil He inherited from His mother in His incarnation was His eternal knowledge as God. Genesis 3:22. Hebrews 4:15. Luke 18:19.
     
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    Jesus faced them all.

    Hebrews 4:14-16

    Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

    Jesus is the only person who courageously fought sin from beginning to end without losing the fight.
    We wonder why Jesus prayed so much. I submit it was prayer to defeat temptation and remain victorious against the very real temptations that all humans, including Jesus, fight. I submit that women tempted him, especially when he was getting famous and they thought he would be the King of Israel. I submit that he was tempted by people who would bribe him. He was tempted to work along side the leaders and compromise the cause. He was tempted in everyway that we are tempted. But Jesus took up the armor of God and fought as our champion, whom we look to (read Hebrews 12:1-4).

    Sir, Jesus fought it all. Every temptation was seeking to devour him, but, unlike us, Jesus fought it all. Every temptation is wicked.
     
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    Is creation of the physical universe by means of the Second Person of the Trinity, or did the Second Person simply funnel the creative power of the Third Person at the behest of the First Person?

    I think the answer is the physical universe (including humanity) was created by means of the Second Person of the Trinity using the agency of the Third Person of the Trinity at the behest of the First Person of the Trinity. But this is speculation on my part, and thus should not thought to be based on clear evidence from scripture.
     
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    The one being, God, created.

    Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
    ~ Genesis 1:26
     
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    There is no quote for His human nature, as he was fully human, became a real man!
     
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    He was called a Man in the Bible
     
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    God took on and assumed human flesh, became a real human being, just like one of us, except has a sinless human nature
     
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    why do you kept putting " around Jesus humanity, was he fully human or not?
     
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    read Philippians 2:5-8, in the Greek if possible, and then tell me that I am wrong!

    Are you denying that Jesus Christ remained Almighty God while on earth?
     
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    and not God?:rolleyes:
     
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    you can't grasp it, so until you do, you will never understand
     
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    so, if God took on flesh, how did He do this? Did He simply indwell a human being, or, did He take on the very nature of Man, while remaining fully God? This means TWO distinct NATURES, and ONE PERSON. Check Church history on this essential Doctrine
     
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    #76 37818, Jan 25, 2022
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    Both man and God. Read Hebrews 1 and Hebrews 2. Jesus is fully both man and God.
     
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    this is what I have been saying in ALL my posts here on the Person of Jesus Christ. And yet there are some like YOU, who keep on making FALSE accusations about what I believe!
     
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    No, but are you denying that he became a real and true human ?
     
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    Both
     
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