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Is Iran NEXT?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 23, 2007.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    I hear DHS is looking for people to volunteer and there's always the "Citizen Corps". Maybe he could join one and be a Govcorp snitch and turn in anyone that questions the "authorities".
     
  2. StefanM

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    The conflict isn't "winnable" anyway. Cf. Iraq. If our intention is to prevent the acquisition of nuclear weapons, we can metaphorically bomb them back to the Stone Age (conventionally), then back off.

    If our intention is to occupy and to prop up a pro-Western government, we've lost before we've begun.

    I don't think we should use military force, personally, but I'd hate to see a massive ground force accomplish none of its long-term goals.
     
  3. KenH

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    Bombing with our troops next door to Iran would be disastrous. It would stir up such a hornet's nest that the current situation in Iraq would look like a picnic in comparison. Instead of losing 80 of our troops a month we might lose 3000 a month.
     
  4. KenH

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    In order to produce nuclear weapons Iran would have to violate the NPT. Iran has not done so to date.

    If Iran ever does, then we can talk about increasing the sanctions against it and such like. But unless that happens, we should leave Iran alone. Their oil production is declining, and Iran even imports gasoline. Given enough time the current Iranian government will fall without outside intervention.
     
  5. StefanM

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    I agree with you. I don't want any troops in the region, truth be told. I don't want war with Iran unless absolutely necessary, and I don't see it at the point yet.
     
  6. hillclimber1

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    Ken, you're really something. Few people stir me like you. You are truly a tolerance test. What happened to your promise to quit this board to fight for your candidate of the week?
     
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  7. LadyEagle

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    The quickest way to end all the islamofascists (including the iranian nut leader and his mullahs) who shout allah akbar while they slaughter innocent people is to bomb Mecca. Then they would see allah isn't akbar. Since no one in the West has the moral courage to do that, then I agree with this:

     
  8. KenH

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    Are you willing to see our nation suffer the massive blowback from a stupid act like that by our government?
     
  9. KenH

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    I feel guilty about supporting the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Therefore, I want to do what I can to encourage people to stop a third Middle East conflict. I want to see our country taken back from the neocons.

    And I am just coming over here when I some time like on this three day weekend.

    Hey, hillclimber1, if you can't stand the heat I am bringing in debate maybe you can get yourself named as a moderator and you can ban me. That's what people who call themselves "conservative" like to do - ban those who don't march in lockstep with them just like the Bush "conservatives" want to ban Ron Paul from the GOP presidential debates.
     
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    Our nation is going to suffer a massive attack anyway, probably so massive, it will change life in this country as we know it, so no need to worry about blowback. If we had any leaders who had a real clue about the ideology that is threatening civilization and had moral courage to deal with the facts, we would get the black rock before the followers of the black rock get us.
     
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    it is foolish to think that they just want us to leave them alone. what they want is for us to abandon Israel. May that never happen.
     
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    Yes, let's bomb another nation whom we are at peace with. I cannot believe you said that LE. Not only is that a really dumb idea, it also runs counter to your assertion that you are pro life.
     
  13. hillclimber1

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    It is those of your ilk, with liberal standards that push for the "Fairness Doctrine", and McCain Feingold that want to ban the free exercise of our constitutional speech. Not conservatives. And if your boy can't stand the heat, he has no business vying for the White House. And if he continues to shoot himself in the foot, through foolish statements, the same holds true.

    I wouldn't ban anyone, except for repeated bad language, and would never accept a mod position under any condition.
     
  14. KenH

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    I am opposed to the Fairness Doctrine and I am opposed to McCain-Feingold.

    That's been bothering me, too. I am deleting Baptist Board from my favorites. If I read on the board I will be tempted to post. Therefore, "Bye, bye. For good."
     
  15. poncho

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    Ken, mi amigo. Don't let these fake conservatives chase you outta here. Check out what their "great leader" is doing now.

    Recent revelations illustrating the fact that the U.S. government is using a Sunni Al-Qaeda terrorist group formerly headed by the alleged mastermind of 9/11 to carry out bombings in Iran undermines the entire war on terror as a monumental hoax that is being exploited purely to realize a geopolitical agenda.
    "President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert "black" operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed. Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilise, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs." ​
    "The CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan," the London Telegraph reported yesterday.
    Jundullah is a Sunni Al-Qaeda offshoot organization that was formerly headed by alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Even if you believe the official story of 9/11 to the letter, the fact that Bush has personally authorized U.S. support for this group completely dismantles the facade of the war on terror.

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    Jundullah is not the only anti-Iranian terror group that US government has been accused of funding in an attempt to pressure the Iranian government.

    Multiple credible individuals including US intelligence whistleblowers and former military personnel have asserted that the government is conducting covert military operations inside Iran using guerilla groups to carry out attacks on Iranian Revolution Guard units.

    It is widely suspected that the well known right-wing terrorist organization known as Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), once run by Saddam Hussein's dreaded intelligence services, is now working exclusively for the CIA's Directorate of Operations and carrying out remote bombings in Iran of the sort that the Bush administration condemns on a daily basis inside Iraq SOURCE


    He's funding Al Qaeda! That means our tax dollars are going to support the same terrorists we're supposed to be fighting. Now if that doesn't tell everyone that the "war on terror" is a crooked sham I don't know what will.
     
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