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Is Obama a Murderer ?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    By some BB member's standards he would HAVE to be.

    As far as I know, congress has not declared war on Pakistan. Let's see the zero-heads bash him like they bashed the deserving previous administration.


    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Two missiles fired from American drone aircraft killed more than 30 people, including Qaeda and Taliban fighters, near the Pakistani border with Afghanistan on Saturday, according to a Pakistani intelligence official and residents of the area....

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    During his visit, Mr. Holbrooke heard a litany of complaints about drone strikes, some of which have inadvertently killed civilians, making it harder for the country’s shaky government to win support for its own military operations against the Taliban.
    It was unclear if any civilians where killed in Saturday’s strikes, which residents say also hit a madrasa....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/world/asia/15pstan.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
     
  2. LeBuick

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    I was thinking just the opposite Bro Curtis, I wanted to see the GOP defend Obama like they did GW Bush...
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

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    Would this be a "just war" ?
     
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    If you are speaking of Congress the GOP defended Bush only slightly more than the democrats, and they stiffed him ever chance they got. Two of their nuts, Conyers and the Leahy are still trying to.
     
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    Deafening silence from the liberal koolaid drinkers.
     
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    Those that voted for this guy to end the war in Iraq because of "innocent" lives lost are awful quiet aren't they?!
     
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    No Sir!!! I was talking about the GOP, conservatives, Republican's on this board. You justified the war and all the killing when Bush was in charge, is this a new war? Where is the defense for this president? He is your president you know. Are they no longer you son's and daughters in harms way?
     
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    This action in Pakistan is illegal. It was never approved by Congress, Iraq was and was approved by a majority of Democrats.
     
  9. LeBuick

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    You must forget thread like this one when many defended Bush' covert actions in Pakistan? It was decided back then that if that is where the perpetrators of 9/11 are hiding then it's where we must go to get them (if Pakistan won't).

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=52877&highlight=Pakistan+bush
     
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    It has a lot of parallels. The war with Iraq was obviously going to happen, we had a democrat administration saber rattling for 8 years, and then another year or so before the Bush administration actually went in. Then the democrats & the liberals all pretended to be outraged, and decided to ignore Gore, Clinton, & Kerry's demands that we do something.

    Now, we know Obama & the democrats have spent two years building up a war with Pakistan.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-08-03-pakistan-obama_N.htm

    And we see the democrats & liberals absolutely ignoring it.
     
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    Bush had permission from Musharraf. Sense Musharraf is now deposed by election Pakistan has refused any US action within it's boarders.
     
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    My position has always been that the war in Afghanistan was much more justifiable than the war in Iraq as long as you assumed that bin Laden was behind 9/11. But then Bush said we're not interested in capturing him any more and the FBI didn't even charge him with anything related to 9/11.

    Who knows what's real and what's a government illusion? Anyway the article said:

    It was unclear if any civilians where killed in Saturday’s strikes, which residents say also hit a madrasa.

    Maybe no innocents were killed.
     
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    That's funny you mention that .. I absolutely agree with you on that issue. I thought Afghanistan was absolutely justifiable considering the tie-in's to 9/11.

    Not to jump off-topic .. but are we seriously not even pursuing Bin Laden anymore?
     
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    The CIA disbanded the group that was responsible for capturing bin Laden. This in connection with the fact that the FBI does not have enough evidence to charge him with 9/11 simply reinforces my sence that something vert, very strange happened on that day. It wasn't at all what the Bush government led us to believe it was.

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

    If we have no evidence against bin Laden why did we immediately charge him and his men with causing that tragedy. If he didn't do it who did?
     
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    This is about Obama. You never answered the challenges put to you on your nutball 9/11 threads, so don't pollute this one.

    And what is the difference between Pakistan & Iraq ? You are telling me that one undeclared war is good, and one bad ? Why is this one just ?

    And in the O/P, you will see civilians HAVE died because of Obama's bombings.
     
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    Bush did these same missions, why was it ok then?
     
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    According to JC's standards he would be. But what do you call an abortionist?
     
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    And that silly old FBI didn't charge bin Laden with anything. Shameful. This man must be charged and brought to the US where the leftist lawyers and leftist judges can make sure he gets his freedom.
     
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    What it amounts to, we have no real evidence that says he did it. Can you bring a man to justice when you have no evidence against him? Or is that justice?
     
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