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Is the Biblical symbolism found in the New Testament always consistent with the Bibli

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Just Andrew, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Just Andrew

    Just Andrew New Member

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    I’m posting three topics up here, and then NO MORE. I will consider all correction, refute, rebuke of anything I say, and I will abide by any decision of the moderators with regard to these three topics – but after these three topics, I’m done here – that’s a promise! Andrew.

    In the Psalms, we read of God saying,

    “I will not break My covenant, nor change the thing that has gone out of My lips. Once I have sworn by My holiness that I will not lie to David...


    ... His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as THE SUN before Me. It shall be established forever like THE MOON, and like A FAITHFUL WITNESS in the heavens. Selah.” (Ps.89: 34-37).


    According to the Bible, king David's throne is the eternal throne of Jesus Christ (who is the incarnate Word of God); and just as the sun provides the world with PHYSICAL light, so the Word of God provides the world with SPIRITUAL light. Just as the world sees the reflection of the sun's light in THE MOON, so the world sees the reflection of the light of the Word of God in GOD'S ELECT PEOPLE, hence:

    ... His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as THE SUN before Me. It shall be established forever like THE MOON, and like A FAITHFUL WITNESS in the heavens. Selah.” (Ps.89: 34-37).

    THE MOON is THE FAITHFUL WITNESS OF THE SUN (Ps.89: 37), because it reflects the light of the sun.

    In Proverbs we read,

    “A faithful witness will not lie, but a false witness will speak lies.” (Pro.14: 5).

    And in Revelation we read that the Lord Jesus Christ is “… the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;” (Rev.3: 14).

    1 Joseph, one of Israel's twelve sons, once dreamed a dream in which he saw THE SUN, THE MOON, and the other eleven stars bowing before him. Joseph was one of the twelve “stars”, or the twelve tribes of Israel (Gen.37: 9), and Joseph's dream was a picture of the nation of Israel. The dream came true much later, when Joseph became ruler over all Egypt under Pharaoh, and all Israel bowed down to him.

    2 “The woman” of Revelation chapter twelve (who brought the Messiah into the world) is pictured “CLOTHED WITH THE SUN, with THE MOON under her feet and a garland of twelve stars on her head” (Rev.12: 1).


    In other words, “the woman” of Revelation chapter 12 is clothed with the glory of God - “the sun” symbolizes THE WORD OF GOD, and the male Child she brings into the world is THE INCARNATE WORD OF GOD. The twelve stars symbolize the twelve tribes of Israel – the nation TO WHOM the Word of God came, and THROUGH WHOM the Word of God came into the world.


    After her Child (“who is going to rule all nations with a rod of iron”) had been “caught up to God and to His throne” (Rev.12: 5), the devil was cast out of heaven, and went to war against “the woman” and “THE REST OF HER SEED, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ” (Rev.12: 6-17).

    Gen3: 15 says,

    “And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He will bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” (Gen.3: 15).

    This shows that “the woman” of Revelation 12 is typified by “the woman” of Gen3: 15.

    3 When the incarnate Word of God was crucified, THE SUN WAS LITERALLY DARKENED:


    “And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land until the ninth hour. And about the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is, My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?” (Mat.27: 45-46).


    So my question is, Is the Biblical symbolism found in the New Testament always consistent with the Biblical symbolism found in the Old Testament?
     
  2. Just Andrew

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    IF (note: IF) the Biblical symbolism found in the New Testament remains totally consistent with that of the Old Testament, then what are we to understand by “the sun and the moon” in the book of Revelation:

    In Rev.6: 9, when the angel opens the FIFTH seal, the souls of all those who through time had been martyred for their testimony to the word of God, are seen to be asking the LORD how long it will be until He avenges their blood on those who dwell on the earth – but they are told to wait a little while longer, until the full number of their brothers and fellow-servants who are to be martyred as they were, is complete.

    Immediately afterward, with the opening of the SIXTH seal, THE SUN becomes “Black as sackcloth of hair”, and THE MOON becomes the color of blood – and THEN we read about THE WRATH of God FOLLOWING these events:-


    Revelation 6 verse 9 to Revelation 7 verse 17:

    (A) The cry of the martyrs (the FIFTH seal), THE SUN BECOMES BLACK AND THE MOON BECOMES THE COLOR OF BLOOD (the SIXTH seal); and the WRATH of God FOLLOWS (Rev.6: 9-17); and


    (B) “THE FOUR WINDS” of these cataclysmic events are held back until 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel have been sealed with the seal of God (Rev.7: 1-8); and


    ( C ) John THEN sees a multitude OF SAINTS in heaven from all nations, tribes and tongues, who had come out from THE GREAT TRIBULATION (Greek: MEGAS THLIPSIS) (Rev.7: 9-17).


    The darkening of THE SUN AND THE MOON is mentioned (symbolically, perhaps?) in a number of places in Biblical scripture, and each time, the context is the end of the age, for example, Joel 2: 31 says,


    “THE SUN shall be turned into darkness, and THE MOON into blood, BEFORE the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.” (Joel 2: 31).


    In both the Old and New Testament, “the Day of the LORD” is ALWAYS found IN THE CONTEXT OF the day of God's judgment of THE NATIONS – the “kingdoms” of this world (symbolized as “the beast” in the book of Revelation):


    In the book of Revelation, “the Day of the LORD” is called “the battle of that day, the great day of God Almighty” (Rev.16: 14), and it is found IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SIXTH BOWL OF GOD'S WRATH BEING POURED OUT UPON THE WORLD.

    Joel's prophecy states that “THE SUN shall be turned into darkness, and THE MOON into blood, BEFORE the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.” (Joel 2: 31).

    And in Mat.24: 29-31, the sun and moon are darkened “immediately after” the days of “great tribulation” (Mat.24: 21-28), and this coincides with the gathering of Christ's elect.
     
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    If there are any inconsistanties in the bible anywhere, none of the bible is trust worthy.
    You are a non baptist posting in the baptist only forum. The rules you agreed to when joining were clear, and the forums are clearly marked.
     
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