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Is the KJV of God or man?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by swordsman, Nov 22, 2003.

  1. swordsman

    swordsman New Member

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    Hello everyone, i know that I do not post often,although I do like reading all the things going on here.
    I thought that this question should get to the root of the version issue.
     
  2. Kidz-4-HIM

    Kidz-4-HIM New Member

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    I'll be brief and quick!
    The KJV Bible is of God and not man.

    Cline
     
  3. robycop3

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    I'll be just as quick, but not quite as brief:

    The KJV was made, 1604-11 by 47 translators working under Archbishop Bancroft, under the auspices of King James I. It was originally known as the Authorized Version of 1611.
     
  4. Taufgesinnter

    Taufgesinnter New Member

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    The initial question sets up a false dichotomy. It's not an either/or proposition.
     
  5. swordsman

    swordsman New Member

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    I do not feel like it is...
    This question came to me reading..
    Matthew 21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?

    There are many that try to correct the KJV's wording and accuracy...so is that book from God or not?
     
  6. BrianT

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    It *is* a false dichotomy, and misapplying Matt 21:25 does not change that fact.

    It it not only from God, for it did not float down from heaven on a golden pillow, but rather had men produce it. It is not only from man, for they did not make up the text, but rather translated texts that are contain words that convey the message from God. Thus it is not an either/or proposition, both are involved. Like all Bibles.
     
  7. Jesus is Lord

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    The KJV is of man.
    The underlying Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek Texts are of God (written by men).

    Pooh... that was easy [​IMG]
     
  8. HankD

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    The KJV is a translation by men.

    It is from God to the degree that it is accurate and faithful to the original manuscripts.

    HankD
     
  9. swordsman

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    Tell me how many things of God came to us " on a golden pillow "?, and I was not misapplying Matt. 21:25.
     
  10. pinoybaptist

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    I'll go with HankD for now. And qualify his second sentence a bit thus:

    It is from God to the degree that it is more accurate and faithful to the original manuscripts than all other translations.
     
  11. Ransom

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    swordsman asked:

    Is the KJV of God or man?

    Yes. Next question?
     
  12. Ransom

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    pinoybaptist said:

    It is from God to the degree that it is more accurate and faithful to the original manuscripts than all other translations.

    Don't know if I'd go that far. It could be taken to imply that a Bible translation has to be the one at the top of the heap in order to be considered God's Word at all!
     
  13. Taufgesinnter

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    I do not feel like it is...
    This question came to me reading..
    Matthew 21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?

    There are many that try to correct the KJV's wording and accuracy.
    </font>[/QUOTE]It can sure use it.
     
  14. HankD

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    Including they themselves as early as 1613.

    HankD
     
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    Swordsman, look at it this way: Is the Geneva Bible from God or man?
     
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    It is a translation that God has used for a long time. But some who use it do not possesss the love it talks about and God does not use that.
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Now Brian... you know that isn't fair. You're denying KJVOnlyism a double standard. :rolleyes:
     
  20. Askjo

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    The KJV is the Word of God because the KJV superority is 99% (5210 of 5225 MSS) manuscript evidences. It is the best translation available for English-speaking people today. Therefore the 99% is of God. Most modern versions are supported by only 1% (45 of 5255 MSS) manuscript evidences. Therefore modern versions are not the Word of God.
     
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