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Is the Prophet Jeremiah's tomb in Ireland?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by LadyEagle, Jan 10, 2003.

  1. LadyEagle

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    Why or why not?

    Where did Jeremiah go with the King's Daughters and the scribe Baruch when he left Egypt?
     
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    Does the correct answer have to do with Blarney or Leprechauns? :rolleyes:

    The Jews in Jerusalem didn't want Jeremiah. Nor did those in exile in Egypt. Why not ship him to Ireland? :eek:

    Matter of fact, I have some Irish neighbors and would appreciate help shipping THEM back to Ireland, while we're at it. [​IMG]
     
  3. Ulsterman

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    ROFL It is said Jeremiah's bones lie on Devenish Island, in beautiful Lough Erne, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. Many years ago, I took a group of young people who were in a Christian camp to the island as part of their daily activities. The tour guide announced Jeremiah was buried on the island, and I told the toung people they would be excused all chores for the week if anyone could find the spot! Of course no one could. This theory is part of the mythology surrounding so called British (or Anglo) Israelism, and has no basis in fact or history.
     
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    Interesting idea, but I would also lump it in with the Worlwide Church of Gods British Israelism.
     
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    I don't think it really matters.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    I'm just wondering if any skeptics have studied this at all, rather than just dismissing it as Armstrongism.
     
  7. Ulsterman

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    SheEagle, I can assure you if there was the slightest shred of evidence surrounding this story the Northern Ireland Tourist Board would have capitalised upon it. Take it from me, as someone who lives here it is rooted in British Israelism.
     
  8. John3v36

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    What!!!! :eek:

    You don't think it really matters!!!! :mad:

    Heads of State could rise and fall on this one issue. :rolleyes:

    Just kidding [​IMG] [​IMG]

    [​IMG] Saint John
     
  9. Ransom

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    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon England's mountains green?
    And was the Holy Lamb of God
    On England's pleasant pastures seen?
    And did the countenance divine
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Jerusalem builded here
    Among these dark satanic mills?

    Bring me my bow of burning gold!
    Bring me my arrows of desire!
    Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
    Bring me my chariot of fire!
    I will not cease from mental fight,
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
    Till we have built Jerusalem
    In England's green and pleasant land.

    - William Blake, c. 1804
     
  10. DeafPosttrib

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    Jeremiah never go to Ireland! He preached in Jerusalem! You know better that! The Bible saying so. He died soemwhere in the area of Israel.

    Ireland is about 2000 miles away from Israel!! He cannot reach there! The Bible does not saying Jeremiah reached Ireland.

    I believe Jeremiah died in Israel.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

    Posttribber/Amiller

    [ January 15, 2003, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Jim1999 ]
     
  11. Ransom

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    Good for you, but is that any reason to call someone a "FOOL!!" for asking a question?
     
  12. LadyEagle

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    Why do you think the Israelites were landlocked?

    The tribe of Dan had ships; they traveled and traded.

    "And Dan, why did he abide with the ships? Asher sat still at the coast of the sea Settling down by his landings" (Judges 5:17)

    RE: Jeremiah...

    Can you provide the Scripture passage that shows that?

    [ January 15, 2003, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: SheEagle9/11 ]
     
  13. Jim1999

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    On British-Israelism and Jeremiah:

    "The House of Israel exists to-day as the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic peoples, awaiting the day of full restoration when they will return wholeheartedly to God and be cleansed of all unrighteousness."
    Primogenesis, Howard B. Rand, 1953

    Jeremiah, according to them, died in Ireland and was buried there, awaiting the resurrection and his own justification in seeing "Israel" get right with God. Why Ireland? The book does not say, except it would be part of the House of David under the British-Israelism scheme of things.

    I offer this just as a source for the notion that Jeremiah died and was buried in Ireland.....not that I believe it to be true.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    And no doubt Joseph of Aramethea went to visit the tomb ...

    BTW, appreciated the Blake.

    [ January 15, 2003, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: rsr ]
     
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    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon England's mountains green?
    And was the Holy Lamb of God
    On England's pleasant pastures seen?
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    Hymn number 655 in the Anglican Common Prayer & Hymn Book. Sang this a number of times during school days.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Thank you, RSR,,you are welcome.

    We used to sing this hymn as a Christian service hymn. As you might remember, I grew up and was schooled in the Church of England and I am quite familiar with her ways and hymns.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Go read Jeremiah 51:59.
    Likely Jeremiah died in Babylon.
     
  19. Ransom

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    Jim said:

    Hymn number 655 in the Anglican Common Prayer & Hymn Book.

    Appears in the hymn book that the Anglican and United Churches used to use jointly, as well. For some strange reason, in the topical index it is listed under "Ecology."

    Of course, by institutionalizing it as a hymn at all, it seems to me that they are all missing the point. Blake was mocking the myth that Joseph of Arimathea or Jesus ever set foot on British soil. It seemed apropos to post it to this thread, as well.
     
  20. Jim1999

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    The hymn does not say that Jesus walked on England's shores, but poses the question,,,,And did those feet..........?

    The second stanza in the Common Prayer book is:

    Bring me my bow of burning gold!
    Bring me my arrows of desire!
    Bring me my spear! O clouds unfold!
    Bring me my chariot of fire!
    I will not cease from mental fight,
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
    Till we have built Jerusalem
    In England's green and pleasant land.

    It was based on Mal 3:4 "Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the days of old, and as in former years."

    It was always sung as a hymn unto Christian service, and the imagery applies to that.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    [ January 16, 2003, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: Jim1999 ]
     
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