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Is working for Budweiser wrong???

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by cojosh, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. cojosh

    cojosh New Member

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    This might be an odd question, but here it goes?

    Some friends and I formed a music ministry(a band)several years ago. We have taken some time off and during this time one of the members has started working for the Budweiser co. Well, one of the members and I have decided to resume work on some songs we have written. He doesn't have a problem with inviting the Budweiser member back, but I have some reservations about this. I feel like it may be a bad testimony to the group. I'm afraid that people will mark us as drinkers, which we aren't, but working for a company that sells alcohol may give people that idea.

    I just don't want this to hurt our testimonies and the ministry? I don't want to hurt my friend either. Am I justified in feeling this way? What should I do? :confused:
     
  2. 4His_glory

    4His_glory New Member

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    I believe you are justified in feeling the way you do. You are going to get to opinions on this though.

    Those who believe it is ok for a Christian to drink will most likly say that it is ok to work for a company like Budweiser.

    Those, like my self, who believe a Christian ought to avoid drikning would also say that working for a company like Budweiser should also be avoided.
     
  3. DavidsonBap

    DavidsonBap New Member

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    What would be a bad testimony to the group would be to back stab this guy because he is working for a living and wants to help this ministry. This guy is doing nothing wrong by working at Budweiser. People will always mark you as something or another. In my opinion, I wouldn't give it another thought.
     
  4. James Flagg

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    It might be "wrong" if you secretly liked Coors better.
     
  5. FBCPastorsWife

    FBCPastorsWife New Member

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    I totally agree with 4His_glory! If you feel there is a possibility of it harming your Christian testimony then it is wise to avoid it.

    Your best action would be to make it a matter of prayer.
     
  6. All about Grace

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    Kind of like Jesus?
     
  7. mioque

    mioque New Member

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    Personal opinion.
    No Christian should ever be involved in the brewing of substandard beer.
     
  8. JamieinNH

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    I believe that you can work for Budwiser and still be an effective witness to someone.

    The Bible does not say that you shouldn't drink, it states that you shouldn't be a drunker. There is a difference.

    The idea that because someone works for one particular company would hender God's work is crazy.

    What if he worked in any other "questionable" job? Are we to limit the power of God's work by decieding who should and shouldn't - can or can't be witness?

    I say you can your friend would/could be a powerful witness to many people even though he does make his living at Budwiser.

    Jamie
     
  9. gb93433

    gb93433 Active Member

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    Loads of Christians support Muslims by buying gas. Do you have a problem with that? Many Christians work in grocery stores which sell pornogrpahy.

    Have you done your best to help the member find a job to support his family if you feel his choice of jobs is bad?

    Remember Jesus ate with sinners and the only people Jesus condemned did not like that.
     
  10. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

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    In and of itself, probably not.
     
  11. Johnv

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    Then those of us who work for lawyers should quit our jobs too. Or those us us who work at Catholic or Methodist hospitals. Or those of us who work for the government. Or those of us who work in the film industry, or any media industry.
     
  12. TEXASGRANDMA

    TEXASGRANDMA New Member

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    For many years, my Sunday School teacher worked at Budwizer in HOuston. He prayed many years about whether God wanted him to quit and always recieved no as a answer. He retired from there last year. The truth is there are sinners in every job. You can shine your light of God in your work place. Some of the most foul mouth people I ever worked with were doctors in surgery.
    betty
     
  13. cojosh

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    Thanks for the posts, but I'm not really looking for opinions that are focused on the subject of Christian occupational preferences, befriending sinners and being a witness in the workplace.

    I'm referring to the act of two individuals that are in strong disagreement about an issue that could hinder their ministry. The focus is on the ministry. I'm not talking about turning my back or cutting the friendship.
     
  14. bapmom

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    Since you are one of the guys within the disagreement, I think the best thing you can do is pray about this situation.

    There's going to be criticism of you no matter what you do. You have to decide if the criticism on this issue is just, or not.

    This isn't really exactly the same thing as working for a lawyer or a used-car salesman....because those occupations are not actually universally corrupt (though people joke like they are), and most people know that. But beer is beer, no matter what you do with it. And its really more than just a company that deals with alcohol...like a grocery store. It is a company whose sole purpose is alcohol. That might very well be different.

    You need to decide if it is really a bad testimony in your eyes.....

    And if that testimony is going to affect the ministry.
     
  15. Pastor Larry

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    I may be the stick in teh mud here, but I would have a problem having this guy involved in a ministry that I was in. I can't see a redeeming reason to work for an alcoholic beverage company. I certainly can see a load of testimony problems with it in ministry. IMO, you would be wise to think twice before having a ministry partnership with this person. (That says nothing about having a friendship with them.)
     
  16. Gina B

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    Am I justified in feeling this way? It is always justifiable to question whether something will be helpful or harmful to a ministry.

    What should I do? Go to your friend and tell him what you're thinking.

    But, also go through how you can present it in a conversational manner rather than accusatory, and be prepared for questions he may have, such as "if I worked as a cashier in a grocery store/gas station that sold beer, would you feel the same way?"

    Hope all goes well.
     
  17. 4His_glory

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    Loads of Christians support Muslims by buying gas. Do you have a problem with that? Many Christians work in grocery stores which sell pornogrpahy.

    Have you done your best to help the member find a job to support his family if you feel his choice of jobs is bad?

    Remember Jesus ate with sinners and the only people Jesus condemned did not like that.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Buying gas is a nessicity, it is not a worthy comparison. One has a choice wether to work at Budweiser or not.
     
  18. KCLorelei

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    If the focus is on the ministry, as you say, I'm not sure how the member's employment with a beer company will hinder the ministry? People will gossip, won't they? I understand about the need to not give the appearance of sin, but working for a beer company doesn't make all of you intemperate, does it?

    Your first post said you had 'some reservations'. Now you've said it's a 'strong disagreement'.

    Why?

    This may be a good opportunity for your group to shine a little light on other's tendencies to judge, huh? Is your concern more about being approved by people, or approved by God? Motes and beams...unless his employment is causing him to become a drunk, that job ought not to hinder your music ministry, unless you allow it to.

    IMHO, let the Bud employee stay. Those who turn up their noses because of a band member's place of employment probably wouldn't hear your message, anyway. ;)

    What style music do you play? Who is your ministry targeted towards?
     
  19. Johnv

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    I think they should agree to disagree, and be respectful of each other,a dn the groups as a whole, by not bringin up the disagreement in company.
     
  20. gb93433

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    People will gossip about most anything just to elevate themselves above others.
     
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