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"It Is Finished."

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by KenH, Apr 14, 2024.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    "He hath finished redemption for thee; and He will finish redemption in thee."

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    "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished."—John 19:30.

    Perhaps these words formed the sixth cry of the Lord Jesus on the cross. The glorious close of all his sufferings was now arrived; and full of these high ideas which occupied his holy mind, he cried out, "It is finished!" What is finished? Redemption-work is finished. All the long series of prophecies, visions, types, and the shadows of good things to come, which pointed to Jesus and redemption by him, were now finished in their accomplishment. The law was finished in its condemning power; and the gospel commenced its saving influence. Jesus, by that one sacrifice now offered, had for ever perfected them that are sanctified. The separation between Jew and gentile was now finished and done away for ever. Jesus had now "gathered together, in one, all the children of God which are scattered abroad." The iron reign of sin and Satan, of death and hell, were now broken in pieces by this stone cut out of the mountain without hands; and life and immortality, pardon, mercy, and peace, were brought to light, and secured to the faithful, by this finished redemption of the Lord Jesus Christ. The peace, the love, the favour of God the Father, was now obtained; and that spiritual kingdom of the Lord Jesus, which shall have no end, was from this moment set up in the hearts and minds of his people. The sure descent of the Holy Ghost was now confirmed; and the Lord Jesus already, by anticipation, beheld his Israel of old, and his gentile church, as well as Ethiopia and the multitude of the isles, stretching forth their hands unto God. Full of these and the like glorious prospects the mind of Jesus was filled; and having received the vinegar, as the last prophecy remaining then to be completed, he cried out, "It is finished!" My soul, never let these precious, precious words of Jesus depart from thy mind. Do by them as Moses commanded Israel concerning the words he gave them; "let them be in thy heart, and in thy soul; bind them as a sign upon thine hand, and let them be as frontlets between thine eyes." Tell thy God and Father what thy Jesus hath told thee—"It is finished!" He hath finished redemption for thee; and He will finish redemption in thee. He hath destroyed death, both satisfied and glorified the law, taken away the curse, made full restitution for sin, brought in an everlasting righteousness, and opened the glorious mansions of the blessed as the home and rest of all his people. Oh my soul, let these dying words of thy Jesus be made by thee as an answer to all thy prayers, and begin that song to the Lamb, which ere long, thou wilt fully and loudly sing among the church above —"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain; for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood."

    - Robert Hawker, The Poor Man's Morning and Evening Portions, April 14, Morning
     
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    1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


    Brother Glen:)
     
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    Was finished prior to John 19:28, . . . Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . .
     
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    "Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished; or just upon being accomplished, were as good as finished; and as they were to be, would be in a very short time; even all things relating to his sufferings, and the circumstances of them, which were afore appointed by God, and foretold in prophecy, and of which he had perfect knowledge."

    - excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on John 19:28

    Also, John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

    "He speaks of it as done, because the time was come to finish it, and he was sure of the accomplishment of it."

    - excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on John 17:4
     
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    False. It says were accomplished. Psalms 22:1, was past before John 19:28.
     
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    Jesus said the words before He died, not after He died?
     
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    Yes. Shortly before He died on the cross.
     
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    I mean I think that is how 37818 is reading the passage - that if Jesus meant to include His death He woukd have said the words after He died therefore it was accomplished before His death.

    I believe He was speaking of His suffering, that period where man was being reconciled, and was shortly to be accomplished.

    If I died for you, and was saying it's done, then I'd say it before I died. That kind of thing.

    Technically the Atonement was not finished until the Resurrection (God indicating Christ....or if we look at "sacrifice" in general, it being effective). But then again, it was not finished until Christ ascended to the Right Hand. So it depends on what we consider "it" to be.
     
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    I have difficulty deciphering the meaning behind lots of the posts of 37818. I find them to be rather cryptic(often perplexingly brief).
     
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    I get what he is saying (I don't agree with him, but I get it). He is taking a very legalistic position in regard to the text (when Jesus said "it is accomplished" it was already accomplished).
     
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    I think it meant that the scripture had been fulfilled:

    28 After this Jesus, knowing that all things are now finished, that the scripture might be accomplished, saith, I thirst.
    29 There was set there a vessel full of vinegar: so they put a sponge full of the vinegar upon hyssop, and brought it to his mouth.
    30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up his spirit. Jn 19

    21 They gave me also gall for my food; And in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. Ps 69
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    Except everything wasn't finished (according to that passage). He said the "I thirst" so that Scripture would be fulfilled. And even then, this was prior to Jesus being in the tomb 3 days and prior to the resurrection. And it was before Christ ascended to the Right Hand.

    "All things" cannot refer, therefore, to everything associated with our faith. Paul, for example, centers our faith on the Resurrection.

    So the question is what exactly was Christ speaking of.

    I believe He was speaking of his suffering, of His obedience even to death on a cross.
     
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    That's what I mean, particularly the suffering foretold in the Messianic Psalms.
     
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