It Was 40 Years Ago Today... Sgt. Pepper

Read my earlier quote. EMI removed Jesus not The Beatles. John Lennon was a regular churchgoer when he was a child and in later life said that he believed in Jesus and hoped that before he died he would be able to return to Christ.

It was also rumoured (no idea if this is true), that he had been visiting a Christian friend shortly before his murder and was seriously considering accepting Christ.

So please, don't judge someone on what they did when they were in their 20s. If you do most of us wouldn't make it!

 

The Beatles are not occultists! :BangHead:

 

Lennon was a very complex man, as many artists are. He was also easily led, and when in the company of certain individuals would grasp onto their statements. As he got older he regretted a lot of what he had said during his time in The Beatles. This is stated a number of times in interviews he did before his death.

His worldview was that mankind could change the world (although he had attended church as a child, he didn't regard himself as a Christian), and he felt that the best was was through political action. He was a socialist (there are Christian socialists incidentally), and that was what Imagine was about. But he was never hung up on money as so many of his critics were.

He was very generous, giving to many charities and the NY Police Force Benevolent Fund.

He admitted that he neglected his first son, Julian, but he tried to make up for that towards the end of his life. Julian has said a lot of bitter things about his dad because he had so little time with him and because he does not get on with his step-mother Yoko Ono.

 

Crowley wasn't John's hero. He was just someone who John chose because he had been reading about him at the time, and he liked the name. Here's an example: Sgt. Pepper also contains Albert Stubbins a famous Liverpool FC footballer. John knew nothing about football but wanted a Liverpool footballer on the cover and so chose Albert because he found the name funny.

 

Some of the quote sites you use are not accurate (I've checked them and they have misquoted him). However, I cannot show proof of his conversion because he didn't, so yes, he is in hell. But I still do not accept that Beatles lyrics are satanic any more than listening to popular music is wrong.

Christians have got good sense to know right from wrong. Some Christians just take things too far. For example, do you celebrate Christmas? If you do, why? Some Christians are so fundmental that they won't celebrate it or Easter.

It's like the KJVOnlys. They have taken something to its illogical conclusion.

You don't like The Beatles or Lennon. Fine, I won't stop you - we all have free will. But I also certainly don't believe I am headed for hell for listening to their music.

The only sin putting people in hell is not accepting Jesus - what music they listen to is irrelevant.

 

One last thing I wanted to say before I leave this thread (simply because we are never going to agree), is this:

Sgt. Pepper was not dedicated to anyone. Sgt. Pepper was the name of one of the policemen on their first US tour in 1964.

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is not about LSD. Julian (John's son) came home from school while The Beatles were recording, with a picture that he had painted (he was 4 at the time). John asked him who was in the picture and Julian replied: "It's lucy in the sky with diamonds." John liked that and wrote a song around the title. His ex-wife Cynthia supports this.

The whole idea of Sgt. Pepper was because it was fashionable to wear ex-military clothing at the time, and there were bands with names like Captain Musgraves Artillery. Paul McCartney also liked the idea of a fictictious band.

A Day In The Life was about items John had read in the newspapers, including a report on their being 10,000 holes in Blackburn, and the death of the Guiness heir.

John Lennon was also a huge Bing Crosby fan (Lennon wrote their first number one 'Please Please Me' after listening to Crosby's 'Please'). I suppose now you're going to tell me that Crosby's music is satanic as well?

 

So are all Christians who do celebrate them destined for hell (some fundamentalist Christians celebrate them you know?)

And I do not worship idols. John Lennon is not my idol. I know the Bible warning full well. Just because I like Lennon and The Beatles does not mean I worship them. I just also happen to like accuracy and some of the Christian sites that attack them are full of heresay and myth.

I've just realised I've added an extra comment when I said I wouldn't, but I felt your last post needed a reply. Will shut up now.

 

Here we go again...

He is not my idol. I am simply correcting some of the mistakes posted here. Jesus is my only idol. I would defend my Dad in the same way if someone posted mistakes about him. And as to imagine I have always seen it as a song about socialism, and as I hate socialism, I try not to listen to that particular song.