It's not bad enough NSA is spying on us -- now it's the Nat'l Library of MEDICINE!!

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ial-media-for-information-on-health-behavior/​

The National Library of Medicine (NLM) is “mining” Facebook and Twitter to improve its social media footprint and to assess how Tweets can be used as “change-agents” for health behaviors.

The NLM, a division of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), will have software installed on government computers that will store data from social media as part of a $30,000 project announced last week.

First, having the NLM spy on me and my friends seems more than slightly absurd.

Second, "$30,000"??? Why didn't the software manufacturer developing that program design www.healthcare.gov???

 

[Crabtownboy]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ial-media-for-information-on-health-behavior/​

First, having the NLM spy on me and my friends seems more than slightly absurd.

Second, "$30,000"??? Why didn't the software manufacturer developing that program design www.healthcare.gov???

Are you as concerned by Corporations spying on you, data mining, to find out as much as they can about you?

Are you as concerned about the information gathered by the microprocessors in your late model car that can be tapped and data mined?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Second, "$30,000"??? Why didn't the software manufacturer developing that program design www.healthcare.gov???

Great point.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Are you as concerned by Corporations spying on you, data mining, to find out as much as they can about you?

Are you as concerned about the information gathered by the microprocessors in your late model car that can be tapped and data mined?

I can use data blockers and other methods to prevent those "data mining effort" from gathering information. I have no choice with your corrupt weasel of a Great Pretender.

 

[Revmitchell]

I am not near concerned about corporations doing anything. They cannot create laws to force you to do things against you will and beliefs. Why liberals cannot see the difference I have no idea. Their fear of corporations is irrational.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I can use data blockers and other methods to prevent those "data mining effort" from gathering information. I have no choice with your corrupt weasel of a Great Pretender.

How do you block the data mining by the microprocessors in your car?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

How do you block the data mining by the microprocessors in your car?

Simple. I don't buy cars from companies that want to have my car "communicate" with them. And while I know you're going to try to tell me I don't have a choice there either, I know that's not the case. I buy Ford trucks, and sync (for the moment) is still optional on them. If they make it standard, I will find a way to disable it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Simple. I don't buy cars from companies that want to have my car "communicate" with them. And while I know you're going to try to tell me I don't have a choice there either, I know that's not the case. I buy Ford trucks, and sync (for the moment) is still optional on them. If they make it standard, I will find a way to disable it.

Then you will not be buying any cars in your future. You cannot purchase a car without a whole bunch of microprocessors. Data mining is only a side function of these little pieces of equipment. No new model car can operate without them.

Your personal information is being mined by corporations whether you like it or not. That is much more dangerous to you than what NSA has done.

For instance the 60 second pre-crash data may well determine if your claim is honored or not. If it shows you were speeding prior to the crash your insurance claim may be denied. That is just the tip of the iceberg.

Each year, cars seem to get more and more complicated. Cars today might have as many as 50 microprocessors on them. Although these microprocessors make it more difficult for you to work on your own car, some of them actually make your car easier to service.
Some of the reasons for this increase in the number of microprocessors are:
The need for sophisticated engine controls to meet emissions and fuel-economy standards
Advanced diagnostics
Simplification of the manufacture and design of cars
Reduction of the amount of wiring in cars
New safety features
New comfort and convenience features

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/under-the-hood/trends-innovations/car-computer.htm

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Then you will not be buying any cars in your future. You cannot purchase a car without a whole bunch of microprocessors. Data mining is only a side function of these little pieces of equipment. No new model car can operate without them.

Your personal information is being mined by corporations whether you like it or not. That is much more dangerous to you than what NSA has done.

For instance the 60 second pre-crash data may well determine if your claim is honored or not. If it shows you were speeding prior to the crash your insurance claim may be denied. That is just the tip of the iceberg.

You're talking about EDRs. One, they don't "communicate" with anything unless, following a crash, they are subpenaed in Kansas and Missouri by the police. Unless one has Ford's InLine Sync or the old GM (now a free agent) OnStar system, your car doesn't communicate with anyone.

You're an alarmist, CTB. And "more dangerous to you than what NSA has done"? How much did the White House pay you for that one? And even if my truck is in an accident, it won't be my fault, I don't speed, and I haven't had a traffic ticket in 34 years, so I have nothing to fear. No one does if they aren't breaking the law. If EDRs are inevitable, I still won't have to worry about it.

Now, how about you discuss the advisability of the NML having access to your personal medical data through indirect means, which is, after all, the subject of this thread?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Does not bother me in the least.

I have joined the VA Million Veteran Program. I give them all the medical information they want. If the records of my health can help others I would consider that a good thing. If you do not know about the MVP, look it up.

What is the Million Veteran Program (MVP)?
MVP is a national, voluntary research program funded entirely by the Department of Veterans Affairs Office of Research & Development. The goal of MVP is to partner with Veterans receiving their care in the VA Healthcare System to study how genes affect health. To do this, MVP will build one of the world's largest medical databases by safely collecting blood samples and health information from one million Veteran volunteers. Data collected from MVP will be stored anonymously for research on diseases like diabetes and cancer, and military-related illnesses, such as post-traumatic stress disorder.

http://www.research.va.gov/MVP/

How about you?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Does not bother me in the least.

But the extreme unlikelihood of you being affected by an EDR in your car does?

You're going to love the new socialist order your hero, the Great Pretender, is ushering in.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

C.T.Boy has Bothsidesofthemouthitis, on the state of Big Brother in the U.S.A.. It DID bother him, until Obama signed the Patriot Act renewal.


http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=64799&highlight=draconian

 

[Crabtownboy]

C.T.Boy has Bothsidesofthemouthitis, on the state of Big Brother in the U.S.A.. It DID bother him, until Obama signed the Patriot Act renewal.


http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=64799&highlight=draconian

Again either your memory is faulty or you are deliberately making a false statement. I did not approve the Patriot Act when it was passed under Bush nor did I approve it being renewed.

My point in this thread is, why are some so uptight about what NSA did, but are not concerned about what corporations are doing?

Care to comment on the real point?

 

[Crabtownboy]

But the extreme unlikelihood of you being affected by an EDR in your car does?

No, you miss my point also. If people are so bothered about what NSA did, why are they not also bothered by corporate data mining ... or about data collection through their autos?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Again either your memory is faulty or you are deliberately making a false statement. I did not approve the Patriot Act when it was passed under Bush nor did I approve it being renewed.

My point in this thread is, why are some so uptight about what NSA did, but are not concerned about what corporations are doing?

Care to comment on the real point?

No, but I will point out again, that you were against it before you decided you have absolutely no problem with it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

No, but I will point out again, that you were against it before you decided you have absolutely no problem with it.

You must be showing early Alzheimer's. I have never said that I am in favor of the Patriot Act. You really need to be truthful. And, I will state again, I am not in favor of the Patriot Act.

Here is what I said in the thread you gave the link to:

I hope the draconian, unconstitutional parts of the law have been removed. I'll have to do some research on this. If they have not been removed then the bill should not have been passed and Obama should not sign it into law.

I will accept you apology.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You speak out of both sides of your mouth. Apology not coming.




Edited for auto-correct mistake.

 

[Crabtownboy]

You speak out of both sides of your mouth. Apology job coming.

Not man enough to admit your falsehood I see.

By the way, are you upset about what NSA has done?
Are you upset about corporations data mining your life?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I agree with the two other guys who already answered your question.

And there was no falsehood. You are ok with the draconian police state as long as team zero runs it.

 

[Revmitchell]

Trying to compare what corporations do to what government does is about as absurd as it comes. One is not an equal comparison to the other. And it comes across as a desperate attempt to make a defense for the indefensible.