Featured Jesus and the death Penalty?

See my responses above in red.

 

You said this in another thread that no one rejoindered you on, but the actual facts are these..

DNA testing CANNOT (by definition) EVER "prove" the innocence of someone. It also NEVER HAS. It appears that your information comes straight from the "Innocence Project". That is NOT a reliable or objective source.

By it's very NATURE...DNA testing is utterly INCAPABLE of demonstrating the "innocence" of anyone....

DNA testing CAN demonstrate guilt....it cannot prove innocence. To argue for innocence would be (by definition) an argument from "ignorance"....namely, it is to say that the DNA that we suppose "should" or "might" be at the scene has not been found............

That's simply how it works. That does not mean that it isn't there. NOR does is mean that the alleged Perp is innnocent.

In short....Your magical DNA thing, can only, by it's very nature, "PROVE" guilt....it absolutely CANNOT "Prove" innocence...it never has, and it never will.

You are relying on terrible sources for your information.

 

ABSOLUTELY....don't let him lie to you. CTB doesn't care if there are either "innocent" or "guilty" people on death row....He just hates the notion of swift sure justice for sin.....He will conjure ANY argument he thinks we'll fall for to undermine it.

Mind you....this comes from a baby-murder fetishist.....Who cares what his respect for human life is. He doesn't give a D_ _ _n...about the sanctity of human life...and it's demonstratable.

 

Can I use that for my new signature? I mean, it's not copyrighted or anything, is it?

 

:laugh: Just as long as you note I said it.

 

This thread is like a Who's-Who of my killfile. Eleven pages and I just read it in 2 minutes!

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No more than 'life imprisonment' does.

Yeah? How many more buildings is Timothy McVeigh going to bomb?

So holding someone in prison for years or decades can be "correct"ed by saying "Pardon our mistake-- you're free"? I'd prefer to have had the death penalty.

How often? And based on what?

And if the person is sentenced to die, is there a chance that person may be converted then, but not later if not sentenced to die? More important, are we actually capable of thwarting God's decision as to who will and will not be saved? Don't we wish Elijah would have known that after the Mt. Carmel incident?

No warmongering? Why isn't it no war at all for any reason whatsoever? As well as no self-defense? No jumping out of tall buildings if you're being burned or asphyxiated [9-11]?

 

The real issue here is much like the abortion issue- it's not so much about "death" as it is about the sanctity of life.

Christians, of all people, should support the value and protection of life.

And sometimes that will require the removal, via the death penalty, of people who do not value life.

Those who deny the value of the death penalty, in essence deny the value of human life.

 

A nation sins when it fails to cleanse the land of the blood shed by the murderer;Nothing cleanses the land except the blood of the murderer.


3 So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

31 Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.

 

Out of town today and the conversation has moved on quickly. Went back and read, but there are now so many posts going back would be counterproductive. I going to just jump in here, not ignoring anyone.

FTR I'm with Thomas, so ditto to what he said.

It is some leap to be anti life by not supporting the death penalty, wow!

So abortion okay then to save the life ofa fourteen year girl?

 

From the death penalty to abortion, now THAT'S a leap.

You know full well what I am talking about.

 

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What a crock of crap.

 

I'm sorry, truly sorry that you feel that way.:tear:

But it does not change the fact of the matter.

 

Actually I don't, really.

I don't know how valuing putting people to death is valuing life. If the argument is tat by putting someone to death is protecting other life....wouldn't a jail cell provide the same thing?

To follow your logic, if a pregnancy would harm the mothers life, not in all cases but certainly a reality for a fourteen year old, wouldn't an abortion protect her life?

 

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11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.