Featured Jesus called "believe", and, therefore, "faith"", a "work".

I can read and for you to make false claims about 2 Thessalonians 2:13 is unhelpful.
The beginning refers to the beginning of the New Covenant in Christ's blood. See Romans 4:23-25
We once were not a people chosen for God's own possession (1 Peter 2:10), Ephesians 1:4 refers to our corporate election before we were even created.

 

We have gone over this. Please acknowledge that your theological opinion on this is in the vast minority.

 

Ephesians 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Why waste time & thought trying to define works? If one has true faith in Jesus, one will do works, simple as THAT ![/COLOR]

 

It is faith, given as a gift to the one made alive by grace, that accomplishes the work God has ordained us to do.

*Ephesians 2:4-13*
But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

 

This is just another example of you not trusting scripture.

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
Rom 3:22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;

Rom 3:29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also,
Rom 3:30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

Gal 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE"),
Gal 3:14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

Eph 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man,
Eph 3:17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

Col 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

2Ti 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

1Pe 1:5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

 

Austin this has been pointed out to a number of times now but you just refuse to accept the truth, salvation is the gift of God not faith. Faith in the required condition before God will, via His grace, save you.

Grace means salvation completely apart from any merit or works on our part. Grace means that God does it all for Jesus’ sake! Our salvation is the gift of God. (The word that in Eph_2:8, in the Greek, is neuter; while faith is feminine. Therefore that cannot refer to faith. It refers to the whole experience of salvation, including faith.) Salvation is a gift, not a reward. Wiersbe Bible Commentary

Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Your continued abuse of scripture is well noted on this board, it is time that you just trust what the Holy Spirit says

 

Please quote the verse that says "I require you to have your own faith before I will save you.

Salvation is a gracious gift and as you rightly state, faith comes along with that gift. Faith is not there, in a spiritually dead man's will, before God graciously makes the dead person alive with Christ. Sliverhair, you convince me that if you had your way, you would cut Ephesians 2:4-5 from your Bible so that you could glory in yourself as the cause of your faith, rather than give praise and glory to God alone.

Looky there. God's gift, to all those He elects, is eternal life.

Your continued neglect of the whole of scripture is noted on this board as you piecemeal scripture to fit your humanism and openly reject the Holy Spirit doing the work without needing or requiring your assistance.

 

For someone that claims that they trust the whole of scripture you do jump through a lot of hoops to deny it.

Why do you not believe scripture Austin are you afraid that your neatly constructed theology will collapse all around you. You can deny the truth but it is still the truth.
Gal 3:26 for in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith. And that is something that you can not change no matter what your pagan philosophy tells you.

A theology that comes from a bad root will produce bad fruit. That is the reality you will have to live with. You can not change history. Even as much as you would like to do so.

 

Sliverhair, your ears and eyes seem to be shut and your incapacity to read and comprehend my responses is obvious since I have answered this slur of yours on multiple occasions, showing you, each time, how your are wrong in your interpretation. Therefore, I will simply post emojis when you act foolish, like you have done here.

 

I post scripture and you post emojis. Yep sure got to be concerned about your insightful responses.

 

Thank you for the link. I just read through "The Humanism of Arminianism" by Oscar R Mink. That article is quite scathing and yet it points its finger directly upon the person here at the BB whom I understand to be humanist in his teaching.

 

The article is more fit for the funny papers than in serious reading. Well at least I know where your off the wall ideas come from. Now what emoji are you going to use this time.

 

i.e. "this is what God wants you to do".

Just as Paul and Silas who answered the question "what must I do?"

How about divesting terms from their theological pre-suppositions for a nano-second, yes?

 

Now you know that Austin and a few others on BB can not or rather will not do that. I have tried to use scripture to point them in the right direction but that does not seem to have had any impact on them.

 

Actually it is not funny Austin. Since you seem to think that scripture is funny that says a great deal about your lack of spirituality or biblical understanding.