John McCain's first wife

Senator McCain was actually having an affair with Cindy while he was still married to his first wife.

 

Makes him a sinner just like you and me.If we can't vote for sinners, we can't vote at all.

Being a sinner and an advocate for sin, like, Obama, are entirely different.

 

Yep, it's those Republican "family values" at work. The McCainites pilloried President Clinton over an affair, but it's okay if it is one of their own.

 

I would have a problem with this part of his life if he were a candidate for Pastor of a Church. I would fight his nomination tooth and nail. Being a candidate for POTUS his requirements for office are not so narrowly defined in the Constitution. I'd like to have a President that lives like I do, it is not always possible.

That is the only requirement for running for POTUS.

The original intent of the Constitution was that the States were to elect the President without a popular vote and they, not the parties (Republican, Democratic or whom ever).

This clause was repealed by the 12th Amendment. If we elected Presidents this way today (without a popular vote) just think of the money saved. The States legislatures select the candidates then vote by Electoral College with the ballots approved and counted by the US Senate.

Seems to me that this would serve us much better than the mess we have today. Megalomania would not prevail (and I think that is what we have in both candidates today). You have a true Executive being chosen to run this great nation, very much like members of corporate boards choosing a CEO.

Our present system of selecting a President through Partisan Parties is just not working. I say, Lets bring back the US Constitution and Article. II. Section 1 and it's original intent.

Mel

 

Did it stop him from attaining office? I think he won with 45% of the vote. Soundly thrashing a sitting President, Bush 41.
Then his vulgarities with Lewinsky while in office betrayed his public trust. Can you just imagine the CEO of a corporation doing such with a secretary? The EEOC would be on that whole business like white on rice.

 

The Lewinsky affair got him impeached. As for CEOs and Secretaries, it happens all the time. It isn't sexual harrassment until someone complains about it. The key work in the law is "unwelcome".

 

Wrong.

He was impeached for committing perjury on an unrelated matter.

Perjury is a felony. Being divorced or having an affair aren't against the law.

 

You are correct, it was the allegations of Paula Jones on another sexual affair that he supposedly perjered himself over. Bottom line, it was about an alleged sexual indiscretion, something that was used by the GOP for political purposes. If they impeached Clinton over lying about a sexual matter, they should impeach Bush over lying us into a war that has killed tens of thousands.

 

Faulty logic.

Clinton was impeached for committing perjury. What he lied about is immaterial except in the mind of his apologists.

Bush has not committed perjury or any other felony. Get over it.

 

Only because no one has yet to put him under oath. He refused to testify under oath, and should be subpoenaed to do so. I don't dismiss the needless deaths of human beings quite as easily as you do, so no, I will not get over it.

 

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Originally Posted by carpro
Bush has not committed perjury or any other felony. Get over it.

My statement stands.

Don't let your hate for Bush affect your judgement.

McCain has broken no law that I know of. If you know different, please share it with us.

 

==The issue with Bill Clinton was that he lied under oath in a court of law (a crime).

O, and please don't give me the worn out excuse that he only lied about sex. It does not matter what he lied about, he lied under oath. He could have lied about what time he picked his nose, it is still lying under oath. Bill Clinton is an adulterer and a liar, we all know that (Rev 21:8). I honestly doubt McCain is much better. We should NEVER defend sin.

 

==Its not ok for either. Both political parties are guilty of the double standard in almost any area you can think of. In recent history we have had very few moral, much less Christian, Presidents. Most of our recent Presidents have been less than good examples of family values and morals. That is just a fact that we have to live with in this country. We keep electing the same people over and over again and they keep up their immoral lifestyles.

 

This story has already made the rounds here.

 

What law has McCain broken?

Has he defiled the Oval office by having sexual favors performed by an intern while at work?

The differences are so obvious, it's hard to understand why you don't see them.

Well...not really.

 

I am no McCain supporter. I will not vote for him. But it is obvious the difference here. Time itself separates him from Bill. Bill did it while in office (literally). McCain (while President) did not lie under oath. I know libs would like to ignore that fact but it is the whole reason he was impeached and disbarred. The two situations are night and day.