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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by amen_corner, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. Precepts

    Precepts New Member

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    Orvie, we consistently point out contradictions to the thought process, in the mv's, to which the Lord works, you are continuously slandering the KJB. Refreshed has scolded you accordingly.

    It's amazing how receptive one is when he says "preferred" rather than "only to the English speaking people" by those who virtually worship Greek.

    Yall have a God Blessed day, I've got to ride forty miles to pick up the fixtures I need for tomorrow to make about $200 an hour. [​IMG]

    Hey Cranston? Is that an attack on your $38 per hour? [​IMG]
     
  2. Orvie

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    Refreshed, I honestly thought you were sincere, but you're another Precepts :rolleyes:
    Do you honestly believe that your everyday modern reader can read the KJV as clearly as the Word is found in the NKJV? If you do, you're simply out of touch w/ reality, like the aforementioned individual. It's sad that you've chosen to be paranoid about the KJV. I simply chose reality. Question for you and answer it honestly (unpreceptian style) if I said the same obvious things about the Geneva, would you consider it an "attack"? I stated the obvious, which I mistakenly thought you would understand, the fact is that the modern reader does have an extra challenge to read the KJV, hey...that's why in 1611 the KJV came about to begin with, b/c the versions were getting more difficult w/ time. I hope this is clearer this time. ;)
     
  3. amen_corner

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    Precepts,

    Even though you didn't type "yes" or "no" to my question, I sure I figured out your answer. Thanks.

    BTW, I'm new to this topic, and honestly haven't invested in it like a lot other folks here. My motives were not malicious...I was genuinely curious about this issue. I haven't read the other stuff posted in this forum, especially the stuff that goes back a while. And I don't really have a problem with someone who wants to believe KJVO. And I would have never had a reason to ask had my friend not confronted me. It was all new to me. But, this forum has opened my eyes somewhat.
     
  4. Orvie

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    "We" consistently point out. [​IMG] Now, you claim numbers when all along more than a dozen of us point out to you your faulty premise, and now you play the numbers game? [​IMG] BTW, Refreshed has scolded me unaccordingly. For how can someone's premise be wrong, scold the one whose premise is right? :D ;) [​IMG]
     
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    This debate is far from useful.

     
  6. Scott J

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    You seem to be confused... you... are not God. God's silence is evident... it is the presumptive noise coming from you that I am challenging.

    No where from "In the beginning, God..." all the way to the last "Amen!" does the KJV prove or remotely insenuate that "Our Authority is the One Who Inspired the AV 1611 KJB to the English Speaking People."

    The KJV simply does not say what you want it to say. It is a very sophisticated form of "deceiving and being deceived" to evade/deny this simple fact.
     
  7. Scott J

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    Refreshed, I honestly thought you were sincere, but you're another Precepts :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE] Orvie, I enjoy your posts and agree with almost everything. However, I think this is pretty unfair. Refreshed isn't another Precepts at all.

    As true as this may be, the language you used in reference to the KJV goes too far. It is not stale bread nor a rusty sword.

    I am probably as opposed to KJVOnlyism as anyone on the BB. But I am not opposed to the KJV itself- properly understood and taught.
     
  8. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    I know this is off topic, and I have sent an email to the BB, but I was wondering if any of you ever experienced being spammed with webpages harrassing you of your belief? This happened to me today, and I was wondering if any one else had this happen to them? Not from this thread, but a different one, on these boards. Feel free to send me a personal email if you would like to respond to my questions.

    Thanks!

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  9. dianetavegia

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    Michelle, I was sent emails from lesbians who were angered by my stand but not webpages popping up! I don't know how that would happen! Did you keep the acutal address of the web pages? They would still be in your history unless you deleted them!

    Diane
     
  10. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Hiya sis Diane,

    Thanks for your response. It wasn't a webpage that popped up, but someone sent me through their own email address webpages of a harrassing nature to my belief on the rapture. I emailed this person back, and told them I was not pleased, and to stop it. I also emailed her back to each email she sent me, in refutation of what she sent.

    I was just informed by my husband that this is not spamming, but "flaming". I am sorry, I am ignorant to computer jargon, in many areas. I apologize.

    Thanks again, and may the Lord richly bless you.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  11. dianetavegia

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    Michelle, if you ask them to stop and they do not, please notify Barnabas or Webmaster and they'll take care of it for you!

    Be sure to save the emails! The ISP numbers are important. If you forward the emails to Barnabas, open the email, click on edit, properties, message source. Copy all that and forward it with the email! We can track down the offender even if their user name is different from their sign on name. Hubby probably can show you how.

    God Bless,
    Diane
     
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    I found the tittles a long time ago but I am still looking for the jots.
     
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    Diane,

    Michelle is not the only one. If I receive any more, I'll do the same.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  14. Precepts

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    I don't know exactly what the nature is and don't want to know either of the emails, but simply blocking them will result in them "going away" immediately.

    Sister Michelle, I'll send you a PM.
     
  15. dianetavegia

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    Precepts, if someone has your email addy they can send some webpages from that webpage and your email won't be prepared to block it.

    You know those sites that tell you to 'invite your buddies?'

    Trotter, Barnabas is at a meeting tonight but do notify him!

    Diane
     
  16. Precepts

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    You seem to be confused... you... are not God. God's silence is evident... it is the presumptive noise coming from you that I am challenging.

    No where from "In the beginning, God..." all the way to the last "Amen!" does the KJV prove or remotely insenuate that "Our Authority is the One Who Inspired the AV 1611 KJB to the English Speaking People."

    The KJV simply does not say what you want it to say. It is a very sophisticated form of "deceiving and being deceived" to evade/deny this simple fact.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Now we all know who is confused, it's the guy that thinks he has some sophisticated Bible that no one can understand, then he starts his post off with the presumption somebody thinks they are God.

    You ought to hire an agent and go on the road. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Precepts

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    Sister Diane, I recently got two emails from unknown addresses. I deleted them. One had my name in the title, the other said something about getting a better eductaion. The latter one may have been generated from visiting a website for educational material I was looking for. Hey! Believe that? I really don't know everything afterall! That's why I am continually seeking further education.

    Of course I got 6 emails in the past two hours from our friend, "John637vhbc" the guy is really getting out of control, reckon it's "him"?
     
  18. Orvie

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    I got one from Bro Tim, too (I haven't been on my "yahoo" address tho in a few hours.) I wish Tim all the best. BTW, Precepts, I put you on my aol Buddy List, I won't harrass you there, I promise. ;)
     
  19. gb93433

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    I have been accused of the same thing even when people are coming to Christ right and left.

    I can only make some guesses why he said that. Where I live people do not respond to shout stomp and spit. In fact they will turn you off. It is viewed as ingnorance.

    He may have felt as though you didn't communicate enough passion in your delivery. He may have felt that you treated the Bible as a book by your preaching style. He may have felt that you should have used some illustrations. A retired pastor once told me that I should use about one illustration for each point of the sermon.

    I had a similar thing happen to me when I moved from California to Texas. They were used to hearing shout stomp and spit. I am not that kind of preacher. But the people did begin to listen and learn. They found out fast that I had passion when I started some discipleship studies and took them knocking on doors.

    In Texas I was told that passion was one of my weaknesses. In California I am told it is one of my strengths.

    I am sure many have heard a person commend them for a sermon and then the very next person will say otherwise. One time I had a lady call me who was furious and asked me, "Why did you talk about me on Sunday. Everyone knew who you were talking about." I told her that I didn't even know that about her. She left the church and said that all Baptist churches are the same.

    From what you wrote I would say you are right on. But perhaps you might want to pay that man a personal visit. One time a man told me I needed to improve on my sermons. I hadn't known him very long. So I asked to meet with him. He had a wealth of information for me. He was nominated as a writer for a Pulitzer prise at one time. My sermons immediately improved. I could tell by the response of the people and how I felt as well in its delivery.
     
  20. Scott J

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    You seem to be confused... you... are not God. God's silence is evident... it is the presumptive noise coming from you that I am challenging.

    No where from "In the beginning, God..." all the way to the last "Amen!" does the KJV prove or remotely insenuate that "Our Authority is the One Who Inspired the AV 1611 KJB to the English Speaking People."

    The KJV simply does not say what you want it to say. It is a very sophisticated form of "deceiving and being deceived" to evade/deny this simple fact.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Now we all know who is confused, it's the guy that thinks he has some sophisticated Bible that no one can understand, then he starts his post off with the presumption somebody thinks they are God.

    You ought to hire an agent and go on the road. :rolleyes:
    </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe you should go back and review this interaction. You said that God was your authority for believing only the KJV was His Word. I challenged you to cite scriptural proof or acknowledge that YOU had spoken where GOD had remained silent. You responded that I was now trying to silence God. I then stated that you are not God and it was your words I oppose not His.

    You accused me of trying to silence God when all I had done was noted that God had not established what you believe and that you were the one saying it not Him.

    You put yourself in the place of God when you speak where He has remained silent.
     
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