Featured Justified while Ungodly !

The greek does not help your case here. Most of the time when you use the greek, it is only for show, you rarely know what you are talking about, as in this case. You have failed to show in the greek or in the English, or in german or french, that the Elect were ever the children of disobedience !

 

Faith believes on Him that Justifieth the ungodly. That is God given faith receives the Divine Testimony that God Justified His People solely upon Christ's death per Rom 8:33-34, and not on account of any works or conditions performed by men, but while they were being ungodly and enemies in themselves, God was justifying them by the death of His Son ! Also God imputes righteousness to all for whom Christ died or was made sin for 2 Cor 5:21; Rom 5:19 without works, this is testified Rom 4:6

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Now without works means without believing, for believing is a work performed by the mind of man. The word works ergon means:

business, employment, that which any one is occupied

a) that which one undertakes to do, enterprise, undertaking

2) any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind

3) an act, deed, thing done: the idea of working is emphasised in opp. to that which is less than work

So now if God imputes Righteousness because one did believe a testimony, then Rom 4:6 cannot be true ! If God justifies any sinner or accounts them righteous because of believing, then He is responding to good, virtuous dispositions within him the man, which cannot be if He is Justifying the Ungodly. Ungodly means:

destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious

For Paul writes 1 Cor 1:30

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

And this fact of accomplishment s received by God given Faith !

 

It is God who Justifies !



Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Now who shall lay anything to the charge[Against] of God's Elect ? It is God that Justifieth [declares righteous]

Quite frankly here, the non charge by God regarding His Elect, is their Justification !

Nothing of the Elect's performance is regarded in the matter. Now who are those whom God will not lay charges against ? Quite frankly it is for all those Christ died, which reasonably means, the charges that should have been laid or charged against them, were laid or charged upon Him, leaving them Justified by God !

God did not lay iniquity upon them, but upon Him Isa 53:6

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid[or charged or to strike] on him [instead] the iniquity of us all.

 

And the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all!



Many false teachers are deliberately ignorant of this matter Isa 53:6

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Of when God did lay all the iniquities of His Elect to the Charge of Christ ! They teach it as though God does not do it, not until one believes, however that is a serious mistake in judgment !

There is a different time element involved as to when God laid the sin of the elect upon Christ, and when one finds peace through believing of that fact. God's act of laying the sins of the elect is solely an act of God alone, however the act of believing belongs to the one believing. The believing is merely coming into the Knowledge of God's act done in the past, an act that only involved He and Christ their Surety ! Now the application of the blessing can be in the present or the future, but the act of God's Non imputation of the sins of the elect, is always a thing of the past, for Paul preached it so to the Corinthians 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Also this non imputation and the blessing of it was known by the OT Saints as Here Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Paul preached an past act of God, whereby God instead of imputing or charging sin on the elect world, He made Christ sin [by an act of imputation] instead, also Christ was made unto a guilty sinner by imputation, and by that all the actual transgressions of God's elect world were laid to His Charge or account. Now the Truth of the matter is this, no one can be a True Believer that Christ died for their sins, unless their had been an aforetime Act of God, of imputing their sins to Christ in the past !

 

No charges ever laid against them !

Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Any person that is one of God's Elect, God does not ever have any charge of sin against them. From the time they are first conceived in their mother's womb,until their dying day, like the thief on the cross, God did not ever charge him for his sins as a thief, though the powers that be did. The reason this so, is because God had already charged them upon Christ !

 

God never charged the sins of the Elect to them before time in His Eternal Counsel in Christ Jesus ! Eph 3:11

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

In the Mind and Purpose of God the Lamb was slain for the sins of the Elect from the foundation Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Then in time, during the Time of the Crucifixion, God had laid the sins of God's Elect upon Christ experientially, when for the first time The Father hid His Face from the Son, forsook Him Matt 27:46

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

It was because God by Covenantal agreement had laid all the sins of His Elect to Christ's Charge to die in their behalf.

So when did God ever lay any charges on the Elect personally for their sins ? He never did ! They were Justified always, Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

If we can answer Paul's inquiry as to who shall lay anything to the charge of God's Elect, then we can name a time when they were not Justified by God, it is as simple as that !

 

God is not Unjust to charge sin to the Elect !



God is not Unjust to charge sin on those, for whom He charged them [sins] upon Christ. We know that God had charged Christ with their sins before He died by His Testimony here Jn 10:15-18

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Now when Christ receive this commandment of His Father ? It certainly was before the time He was speaking the words to that audience in Jn 10 ! He received it in the Suretyship setup of the Everlasting Covenant, it was His engagement performance to Lay down His Life for those God charged Him with their sins !

Now lets imagine that one for whom Christ died, is brought into this and does at that time begin to commit sins and iniquity, and transgressions, all of which, God had before time taken all those same sins, transgressions and etc and charged them to Christ, then how could it ever be Just with God to transfer them from Christ, and to then charge them on the one Christ hath died already for ? After Christ hath by His Blood paid the full redemption price for them ! 1 Pet 1:18-20

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Then whatever also happened to the Fact that Christ hath purified them from sin ? Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Its a Truth, God does not Lay charges of sin against those Christ died for ! Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

 

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I am advancing the Truth which you deny !

 

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You just reject the Truth because you are in deception !

 

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I agree. But you reject the Truth !