Klingon Version Only

As I understand it , I read this somewhere, they just scanned the WEB into a computer that translates English words into Klingon. Therefore a computer actually did the work.

There's an Idea.
I wonder what would happen if we used a computer to translate from Greek to English?

 

The proponents (or authors if you prefer) of this effort do not claim it is a translation. Instead it is a conversion, wherein a word from the King James is "mapped" into the corresponding (at least as close as possible) word in the artificial language. There is no attempt to apply any grammatical syntax rules.

As a purely academic exercise, I see no problem with it. Will it do anyone any good? Probably not, but I suspect the authors had a lot of fun, and they just might have learned something about the nature of God and His Messiah.

 

There are mental health facilities in Oregon that have a Klingon interpreter on call, should his services be needed. (He's never been needed, but...)

 

John 3:14-16 from WEB, "Dialectized" into Swedish-Chefese at http://rinkworks.com/dialect/

Still makes more sense than the KLV...

Bork! Bork! Borg?

 

That's little different. Being that Klingon is an artificial language, and invented by English speaking people no less, it probably doesn't have it's own grammatical rules and structure that differ like Greek and English do.

Without knowing Klingon myself, I'd guess you could probably go word for word and it pretty much mean the same thing.

 

No, i have not worked on translating any scriptures into any language myself...but i am a supporter of the Wycliffe ministry which is in the business of translating Scripture.
I have also helped send Bibles to places where they otherwise would not have access to the Scriptures.

I personally looked into Wycliffe as a possible ministry field a few years back, but God has lead me instead into the pastorate.

BTW...if you are interested in supporting Wycliffe yourself, their website is: http://www.wycliffe.org/

 

Many will try to make a mockery of God's Holy Word, But God is not mocked. If one sows potatoes, he won't get corn. God will reward them according to how they sowed.

 

It's interesting how much we assume. According to a geek friend of mine who is more knowlegeable on this topic (in other words, he doesn't get out much) the person responsible for the WEB to Klingon translation in the OP is an espoused Christian. He further informs me that several of the people who were/are on the original KLI translation project were/are espoused Christians.

 

In linguistics, the first major written document in any language is often the bible and the bible is probably the most translated (or converted) text in the history of human language. So purely from a linguistic perspective, the bible would be the obvious first choice of translation for the development of artificial fictional languages.

And development is a key word. The act of translation is a development of languages which are not static but dynamic constructs dependent on how humans use language.

 

Actually, the rules of Klingon grammer are similar to Japanese. For example, a short 'beh at the end of a phrase denotes a negative (similar to 'en in Japanese), and a a short 'a sound at the end of a phrase denotes a question. For example, jIyaj (pronounced jee-yaj) means "to understand". Used by itself, it means "I/you understand". jIyaj'beh means "I/you do not understand", and jIyaj'a means "Do I/you understand?"

The Klingon language was developed by an accomplished linguist named Dr Marc Okrand. Because Paramount Pictures Corp is strict on keeping continuity of the Star Trek Canon, it became necessary in the early 80's to canonize the Klingon language to guarantee continuity in as of then future movies and series. Dr Okrand was hired to painsstaking go through the entire Star Trek library at that time, make note of any Klingon verbage used, establish gramatical rules and guidelines, and develop the full language for future use based on those guidelines. Since then, Okrand has served as language consultant on every series or movie that references the Klingon langauge. In addition to Klingon, he has served to standardize the use of Vulcan, though there has not been a need as of yet in the Star Trek universe to fully develop the language as has been required for Klingon. Because of Okrand's intense and lengthy work, the Klingon language is now so complete and difinitive that it is offerred as a study course in several universities.

So there you have it.

This is not a case of God being mocked, but is actually a case of scripture being honored.

 

Johnv:

You just admited to knowing way more about Klingon than any normal person should

How does the grammar relate as to that of English? Is it all subject - verb - direct object, as in English?

I guessed it probably was the same, which is why they were able to let a computer do the translation. But then again, I'm not a Klingon speaking trekky such as yourself

 

Oh my, I did at that, didn't I. Hey, you're talking to the guy who got married on the bridge of the Enterprise, literally! Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) I don't fall into the "too much time on my hands" category.

That's a bit complicated, but in its most basic form, Klingon syntax is almost the exact reverse of English. If I had said "Commander Riker vaporized the Andorian with his phaser," the Klingon syntax would be "Phaser his using while Andorian vaporized Commander Riker", or, [preposition][object][verb][noun].

It's at about this point when I realize I need to get another hobby.

 

LOL I love Star Trek and all, own all the seasons on DVD, and all the movies and all that jazz... but have never had a desire to learn Klingon, nor get married on the Enterprise

...yet the geek in me is interested in your story and how all this came about... and maybe even a little envious that you've been on the set.

Did you get married on the first Enterprise, or the TNG one? How'd you arrange that? Do you know the producers, actors, etc?

 

I should clarify... I got married at Star Trek:The Experience in Las Vegas last year. We exchanged vows on the Enterprise-D bridge, and had our reception at Quark's on the DS9 Promenade.

I will see if I can find the link to my wedding photos...

 

I remember you mentioning something about a beach wedding in the past. Was that your own wedding or a wedding you attended?

 

Most Trekkies that I know are Christians.

 

Perhaps some of you would prefer they spent their time converting something else to Klingon instead of the Holy Bible?

I see nothing wrong with the KLV. In fact I think it's kind of cool that a culture of trekkies would choose to convert an English translation of the Bible.

As they say on Qo'noS, "Hoch 'ebmey tIjon".