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[JonC]

Capitalism doesn’t support federal interference. Capitalism has to do with the moving of capital and whether or not it is done by private corps or controlled by the government.

employees not wanting to be forced to take a dangerous vax has nothing to do with the choice between private corps or government controlling the means of production.

Just a sophomoric attempt at flaming.

Your post is flaming. I am speaking about a very serious infringement on our freedoms.

You post like it is a small thing to strip men of the rights to see to their own affairs. But that is because you are a part of the people chipping away at our freedoms.

Governor McMaster put it very well. He is opposed to mandates however he respects the right of businesses to make their own decisions about their companies.

You have posted that this liberty afforded men under the US Constitution is "evil". You have posted that those who want their employees vaccinated are "brainwashed". But this is only because you do not like their business decisions.

The government, thus far, is leaving it to the individual to decide whether to get a vaccination. The government is leaving it up to the business to decide whether to mandate vaccines.

We have two "slippery slope" issues. Obe could lead to too much government oversight (I belueve we are already here) and yours could lead to advocating a degree of socialism (I believe we are also already here).

 

[Revmitchell]

I’m sorry for your error. The government isn’t leaving it to the individual. The government is trying to apply pressure on individuals. It has tried to force everyone to get the vax by mandating it thru osha I think it was.

Unfortunately your understanding of capitalism is flawed. Capitalism is controlling the means of production. Whenever pressure is being applied to businesses and the business owner takes on new standards not directly related to that controll of the means of production then it is common for the employee to push back.


Again it is misinformation that the government is leaving it to the individual. All federal employees alone are required. That is a government position not a private employee. We all know if they could find a way to force everyone to get it biden would

 

[JonC]

I’m sorry for your error. The government isn’t leaving it to the individual. The government is trying to apply pressure on individuals. It has tried to force everyone to get the vax by mandating it thru osha I think it was.

Unfortunately your understanding of capitalism is flawed. Capitalism is controlling the means of production. Whenever pressure is being applied to businesses and the business owner takes on new standards not directly related to that controll of the means of production then it is common for the employee to push back.


Again it is misinformation that the government is leaving it to the individual. All federal employees alone are required. That is a government position not a private employee. We all know if they could find a way to force everyone to get it biden would

No. The government is leaving it up to the employer. You are not the determining factor to what conditions are workplace hazards. If OSHS has determined asbestos, covid, radiation, etc. are work place hazards then these things need to be addressed. That is the cost of business. Companies can require vaccinations or they can test for covid. It is their choice.

The federal government has the authority to mandate conditions of employment with the federal government. They do not have the authority to force vaccinations or to prevent employees from leaving.

The exception is tge military which can, per regulation updated during the Trump Administration, force vaccinations on servicemen. But they have chosen not to do so.

You are advocating a socialistic ideology. You ate trying to chip away at out liberty - the freedoms some of us have spent most of our lives defending.

 

[Wingman68]

The government is not leaving it up to employers.

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2021/October/PDF/tyrannical-vaccine-mandate-pdf.pdf

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Actually, state control but not ownership was a feature of Mussolini's fascism.

 

[percho]

For those still willing to work would it be extremely fearful for, most of them, to loose their jobs?

Is fear a tactic?

What would most companies do if 50% of their workers refused to summit to fear?