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Liberties GONE? Part II

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Phillip, May 22, 2006.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip <b>Moderator</b>

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    I would like someone to give me an exact instance where they have personally lost a liberty due to the NSA having information regarding them or the Patriot Act in General.

    I do NOT care about what you THINK may be happening such as Hitler did this before WWII. I want facts showing actual loss of personal freedoms.

    How many of you here think that terrorism has quit after 9/11 just because the terrorists decided to quit and it has nothing to do with our war on terrorism?
     
  2. poncho

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    Be careful the elephant doesn't step on you while you're busy straining at the knat Phillip.
     
  3. poncho

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    Massive Echelon snoop program did exist before 9/11, US government knew location of hijackers &lt;-link

    Be sure and tune in tonight at 6 and 11 o'clock to the globalist controlled MSM for all the current misdirection. :cool:
     
  4. poncho

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    Company Pushes RFID Implants for Immigrants, Guest Workers





    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    May 18, 2006a

    VERICHIP INJECTS ITSELF INTO IMMIGRATION DEBATE
    Company Pushes RFID Implants for Immigrants, Guest Workers

    Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has alarmed civil libertarians by promoting the company's subcutaneous human tracking device as a way to identify immigrants and guest workers. He appeared on the Fox News Channel earlier this week, the morning after President Bush called for high-tech measures to clamp down on Mexican immigrants.

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    VeriChip's Silverman bandied about the idea of chipping foreigners on national television Tuesday, emboldened by the Bush Administration call to know "who is in our country and why they are here." He told Fox & Friends that the VeriChip could be used to register guest workers, verify their identities as they cross the border, and "be used for enforcement purposes at the employer level." He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...."

    He told Fox and Friends, "the veri chip could be used to register guest workers". Register guest workers by implanting them with RFID chips. Think it'll stop there?

    "Foreigners today, tomorrow the world." Still can't see the overall game plan huh?
     
  5. Daisy

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    I think the Do Not Fly List is one of the more frequent hassles. Once on, you can never know why or how to get off....or so I've read.
     
  6. Terry_Herrington

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    There is definitely potential for abuse.
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Poncho: //Massive Echelon snoop program did exist before 9/11 ... //

    People who know about the Echelon Program cannot speak of it.
    People who know nothing about the Echelon Program
    are the only ones who can speak of it.
    So by DEFINITION your source is wrong.
    Nobody should believe any source of Echelon information.

    Remember: those who DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO can
    speak of it.

    I can only guess, but I suspect, a clever government would
    monitor all BUlletin board, spam, e-mails, and etc. looking
    for key terms like "Echelon". So there we go again, your post
    is in the NSA data base [​IMG]

    Phillip: //How many of you here think that terrorism has quit after 9/11
    just because the terrorists decided to quit and
    it has nothing to do with our war on terrorism? //

    Why would the terrorist quit?
    The terrorists of 9/11 are winning,
    they didn't like Dubya Bush and are trying to get
    rid of him. It may work yet?
     
  8. poncho

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    Yep, they've sure made Americans subservient to the international bankers and the military industrial complex that run our government. From the discussions here it would seem most folks are ready to trade their own children for a little safety.

    When were you recruited for P2OG Ed? [​IMG]
     
  9. billwald

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    The terrorists already won. What happened to "Nothing to fear but fear, itself?" Where's FDR when we really need him? Bush is using fear to concentrate all powers in his office.
     
  10. poncho

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    Bush is being used to concentrate the power and wealth of the global elite and prepare/condition us to accept a fascist one world government. Same as Clinton and his adopted father George H.W. Bush before him.

    Got a scoop I'll be posting later on as another topic Ed, you might be interested in this one. ;)
     
  11. jereome10

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    This one is simple, last week an FBI bot searched one of the Christian forums that I visit quite often.

    I found this out because the moderator mentioned that he saw this.

    Now for those with their heads in the sand, why in the world would the NSA and FBI be searching through the posts on a Christian forum when the real terrorists are supposed to be Alquada and the Muslims?

    Simple because they isnt a threat of them standing in the way of implementing the final beast kingdom but you are one.

    Btw for those sleeping thats covered by your 4th amendment right I believe and it protects you from illegal searches and seizures that are conducted without a warrent.
     
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