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Looking for Hyles' converts

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by Dr. JK, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Dr. JK

    Dr. JK New Member

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    I have been asked by a Christian author to research this topic. Hence, I would appreciate anyone who could give the names of some of Jack Hyles' own converts.

    Thanks for any help. I don't check this forum often, but will try to do so every few days.

    Dr. K.
     
  2. Shiloh

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    I doubt if you will find any here. This isn't a very fundamental separated board. Why don't you try his old church? I can only imagine who the "author" is you are working for.
     
  3. Squire Robertsson

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    I trust you smiled when you wrote that remark. This Board is rather inclusive. However, we endeavor to maintain a sense of armed neutrality. Please, think of this as a digital Switzerland. And we make no boast or claim to be anything else.
     
  4. bapmom

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    actually I could point you to the Forum Board that is run by FBC Hammond, but I would want to know first that you would be respectful there.

    I also would suggest that you go in person to the church there and ask, as I do not believe an online search is really a very good way to go for such a question.
     
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    http://jackhyles.net/fff/index.php

    Over the past nearly 6 years I've been on that forum (it's about defunct now) with thousands in favor or opposed to Hyles. But never met an actual person who was led to the Lord by him.

    Ask there, as there probably are many but no one has ever brought it up.
     
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  7. Dr. JK

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    Thanks for the replies. I have tried all of the sources closer FBC that have been suggested here. It would appear that there are no Jack Hyles second generation Christians. Looks like the man who built a large organization by requiring "soul winning" of all those under him may have been too busy to go himself.

    In all fairness, we did find one: a young girl from Michigan who called his number there in a motel by mistake, circa 1985. He is said to have led her to the Lord, and brought her to Hammond, where several FBC folks remember her. Unfortunately, she committed suicide shortly thereafter.
    Thanks again,
    Dr. K.
     
  8. MikeinGhana

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    I do not have an opinion one wayor the other on Jack Hyles and his ministyry through the years. I would say that the ugly inuendos and snide comments have no place among us Christians. It is remarks like this that send "seekers" packing. I hope you allow the Holy Spirit to soften your attitude a bit. Only eternity will reveal all of our works whether they be good or bad. Remember by what judgment you mete it shall be "meted" to you too.
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    There have been PLENTY of Jack Hyles discussions here. This thread will not degenerate into another one.
     
  10. paidagogos

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    Well, there is a parallel situation with another icon. Where are the tens of thousands saved in the Billy Graham crusades? Billy came to Greenville, SC in the 1960's when thousands of people supposedly made decisions. One would think a few of those folks would be around today, even though there was no corresponding swell in church attendance or membership at that time, and be easily found in Christian circles. Over the years, it has been somewhat my thing to ask people if they knew anyone who was saved under the preaching of Billy Graham. As of date, I've found two people. How many do you know?

    On the other hand, Evangelist Oliver B. Greene went up and down the eastern coast holding evangelistic campaigns in a tent during the 1940-60's. Thirty years later during door-to-door witnessing and visitation, I found many believers in church and serving God who said they were saved during those campaigns. What's the difference.

    I have an idea. Oliver B. Greene preached hard against sin and proclaimed the Gospel as the only hope for lost sinners on their way to Hell. People were genuinely converted when they realized and repented of their sin. On the other hand Billy's message has changed over the decades. I recently viewed several video films of his early messages. He preached a hard line against sin and a strong salvation appeal. I believe there were many authentic conversions during his early years. However, Billy moderated his message by discarding his overt condemnation of sin into a needs centered appeal (Maslow?). I wonder how many of the later coversions are real. IMHO, this is the Achilles heel of the "seeker-sensitive" movement. Are the conversions real if there is no confrontation of sin resulting in true repentance? Modern evanglism in some quarters has degenerated into a sales presentation with Gospel terms interpersed within a personal appeal and sales pitch. It's much like buying a new car or a time-share condo. It's all worthless if there is no repentance and regeneration.
     
  11. Bob Alkire

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    I can't speak for Graham or Hyles but God used Olive B. Greene's preaching to show me I was a sinner heading to Hell. I accepted the offer of salvation and that was back in the 60's. What a great day!!!
     
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    Thats wonderful, Bob Alkire!

    I wonder if the author of the book alluded to in the OP is going to be putting a listing of his own convert's names in the back of his book.
     
  13. PastorSBC1303

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    I grew up in the same area as FBC Hammond. And in my 20+ years living there I never once met anyone that told me that Hyles personally led them to the Lord. I met many that told me they attended there. It is rather odd, you would think in a church that size there would many that Hyles led to the Lord.
     
  14. Squire Robertsson

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    I think that is the question being asked. Some may view asking it in poor taste, hence it must be properly framed. But, considering the fact, fiction and myth developed over the years, it is a simple question that should be asked. If for no other reason than for the historical record.
     
  15. Shiloh

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    Jack Hyles was a motivator. There are many church all across this country that wouldn't be here if it would have been for Bro. Hyles. I met Jack Hyles years ago however I was not a great fan of his. I do respect him and what he has done and will let the Lord Jesus make the decision on what kind of a reward he should get. I wonder how many people the Lord Jesus personally led to a knowledge of His saving grace?
     
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    PastorSBC,

    to be fair, Ive lived in many places over the years, and Ive never met a single person who has been led to the Lord by a soulwinner who was knocking on doors. Are we then to assume that door-knocking doesn't work?

    I respect you and your opinion, and Im not trying to be argumentative, but I don't know that one person's anecdotal example is enough to determine that one man didn't have any converts.

    While he was a "big man" with a big reputation, he still was only one man. He traveled all over the country preaching, and there are probably many who were convicted of sin under his preaching, and then were led to the Lord by an altar worker.....who's convert then are they?

    Does it matter whether "I am of Paul, or I am of Cephas or Apollos"?
     
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    Quite a number I knew in college were led to Christ by students knocking on doors.

    I was one of those who was led to Christ by someone who knocked on my door.
     
  18. PastorSBC1303

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    Bap, I understand you feel a need to defend Hyles.

    My post was a simple observation from one who lived in that area for many years. Hyles and FBC have boasted of many things over the years. Yet it seems that no one can locate any of these people.

    Maybe it is all a big conincident...or maybe it was just a bunch of boasting with no real substance.
     
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    Well, there was the woman at the well in Samaria, Zacchaeus , Nicodemus, the thief on the cross................... Since we have numerous recorded instances, I would suppose there are many, many more unrecorded. [​IMG]
     
  20. bapmom

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    gb,

    I wasn't saying it didn't happen....but perhaps you get my point? One person not having met a specific type of person does not mean that that specific type doesnt exist.
     
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