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I did. I was terrified that you would expose me as a fraud


Actually, I saw it. But it was doomed.
They don't allow threads about specific BB members.

Try making one about doctrine, not me.

 

It was about doctrine and what you believe. Sigh...I suspect we'll never know.

 

It sounds like the SBC should just merge with the Evangelical (Evanjellyfish) Free Church so that local churches can just do whatever they want as long as they affirm Jesus atonement for sinners. Such a loose connection allows for nearly anything at the local level. It is there where the splits occur.

 

Do you think Jesus did everything His parents told Him when He was 2 years old? How about when He was 1 year old?

 

I saw that thread and knew it would be deleted. It's against the board's rules to have members as topics of threads.

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

 

Good to know. I use Tapatalk to post so I haven't read the fine print.

 

The better question would be...what does scripture say?

And a close second...am I obligated to give an answer which fits into your theological paradigm?

The bible doesn't answer this question directly. Nor are we told whether everything they told Him to do was in keeping with His Father's will.

So any definite answer would be speculation. Not that I mind speculating, but I would never get into a fight over it, and wouldn't mind if someone came to a better answer.

Start a thread with it. It might be fun.

 

You can rest assured. If God wills, you will.

 

Back to the OP...from the article;

Here he claims to Have a PH.D. in systematic theology and does not grasp that a so called 3 pt calvinist is someone who is yet without understanding.
I find this disturbing as he has written it....He cannot really articulate the position without making a strawman...

 

Here is goes for the strawman approach suggesting Fatalism...which no cal believes.

He suggests a god who is not in control of all things? contingency??

Yes...Calvinists see what scripture declares and view it as God has revealed it. You Eric start with man as one of your speakers, Leighton Flowers is known for as a champion of man centered theology and carnal philosophy, not bible based exegesis. We saw his failure in the romans 9 debate and his 24/7 opposition to the truths we know as Calvinism.

 

Unfounded assertions...Strawmanfest...show what you say is true without bearing false witness.

 

Well we will never know for sure until we walk together again in the cool (Heb - Ruach-Spirit) of the evening.

 

Hankins mentions that the Baptist faith and message is weak on calvinism.
Yes it is because it was written to be a compromise document ....to allow goats go come in with the idea that if we get them in,maybe they will hear truth and make some progress.
Using Finneys new measures they have many goats in among the assembly.
The goats thinking they have free will pick and choose what they would like to believe instead of dealing honestly with the texts.
So a doctrine of compromise that remains vague on the harder issues,is just what the doctor ordered.
Eric Hankins does not want those pesky Calvinists coming in and disturbing the weak lifeway booklets...and actually opening the scriptures up.

 

Being that God is fully in control over salvation itself, why would we even doubt that truth?

 

Obviously I have a bias as I interact with this attack by Eric Hankins so I will acknowledge that up front.
You are correct in what you say, and I am sure there are sincere Christians caught up in the middle of this mess.
To avoid division in any Church...love has to be present. I do not believe doctrine needs to divide, but I have been interacting with some in the comment section and they ascribe Calvinism to Satan.

 

Eric Hankins says;

He and others cannot demonstrate this and Calvinism gets introduced into any assembly people enjoy the scriptures being fully taught. This kind of rhetoric appeals to goats and weak defective believers.
I am not saying that to be harsh. Test it for yourself. Ask a traditionalist to explain the teaching and you will discover that 8 out of 10 cannot begin to enter into the discussion.
The problem is in his lack of understanding.

He continues;

This is his philosophy and yet it confuses it is biblical teaching

Not at all...the gospel is preached in all the world.It is only in his mind that this takes place.

 

Arminians don't.

They view God as giving all men the ability and power to choose that which He has provided for all.

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

No I am not a follower of Arius or Calvin for that matter.
I have to many disagreements with either.

Doctrines of grace sounds better than attaching a man's name to a body of beliefs.

HankD