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Lying is Not Patriotic

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by freeatlast, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. freeatlast

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    Lying is neither patriotic nor "Christian." This includes sanctioning "under cover" police operations in which police officers are paid to lie to the general public.
     
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    Never fear for they will not be left out;
    Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
     
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    According to Machiavelli politicians have an obligation to lie to the public because the public isn't smart enough to comprehend the truth.

    Besides if politicians did tell us the truth most of them would be out of a job, or in prison.

    Today's politicians are expected to lie for their corporate masters if they want to keep their government job and stay on their master's "good" side.
     
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    Sidebar: Little-known fact. Machiavelli had previously published papers against dictator-like leaders and such practices, and never intended for his book to be used as a guideline for dictators. It was actually meant to be satire regarding the Mafioso that had moved into the area where he lived, and had broken both his arms for the papers he had published denouncing their dictator-like tactics.

    Back to our regularly scheduled thread.
     
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    Involved in that much in your career?
     
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    What of Rahab? The Egyptian midwives?
     
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    it is interesting how some see these as God condoning lies. He is not. Every person who ever lied can justify their lie for one reason or another.
     
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    >>Originally Posted by billwald
    >>Lying is neither patriotic nor "Christian." This includes sanctioning "under cover" police operations in which police officers are paid to lie to the general public.

    >Involved in that much in your career?

    No. Not since I completed my probation. Anyway, I can't lie with a straight face.
     
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    They weren't lies. They were acts of faith.

    Misleading God's enemies to protect innocent life is a good work.
     
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    >They weren't lies. They were acts of faith.

    You would have loved the Spanish Inquisition!
     
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