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Deuteronomy 16 says the Passover cannot be sacrificed anywhere except Jerusalem.

It is also plainly stated that all the males must appear in Jerusalem 3 times a year.

Btw, that whole "temple is gone" thing ought to tell you something

 

What do you make of Hebrews 7-10?

 

To deny "Personality" to the Holy Spirit, lands you into a confrontation with the Word of God, which clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person, just like the Father and Jesus Christ are.

Firstly, to speak of "personality", we mean, "consisting of intelligence and will", which sets humans apart from the animal kingdom. This is what is meant when the Bible says that we are made in "God's Image". It has nothing to do with the "outward appearance", but that we have "intelligence and will", as rational beings, as God is.

When Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit in John's Gospel, He says that the Spirit is, "another comforter". The Greek here is much better, "ἄλλον παράκλητον", which is in the masculine gender. Strictly speaking, for grammatical gender agreement in the Greek, we have "Spirit" in the Greek, "πνεῦμα", which is neuter in gender. Jesus would have used the neuter, if the Holy Spirit were "impersonal". Also, we have "another", where "ἄλλον", is used for "another like Jesus". Since Jesus is a Person, and the Holy Spirit we continuing His Ministry, He is also a Person. This is confirmed when Jesus also refers to the Holy Spirit as "He", the Greek being, "ἐκεῖνος", which is the masculine. Again, if Jesus were speaking of just "another power", (impersonal) continuing His work, then he would have according to the correct Greek grammar, used, "ἐκεῖνο", which is in the neuter gender, and would agree with "πνεῦμα", in gender agreement. It is because the Holy Spirit is also a Person, like Jesus, He uses the masculine. Another factor is, that since Jesus Speaks of the Holy Spirit in John chapter 16, of continuing His work, and He is "ἄλλον παράκλητον", this very clearly means that the Holy Spirit is NOT the same Person as Jesus Christ, as the grammar very clearly distinguishes them. Jesus says that when He goes, then the Holy Spirit will only come. Read John chapter 16:1-15, where it is very clear, that Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are not one and the same Person.

If, as you say the Holy Spirit is not a "Person", then how can you account for the fact, that He has Personal qualities? The Holy Spirit, "creates", can be "grieved", "sends", "commissions", "teaches", "directs", etc, etc, all of which only a Person can do.

I have already shown that from passages like Matthew 28:19, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit cannot be the same Person, the Greek grammar is very precise here, and leaves no room for any doubt.

 

Jason - I know you're trying to answer multiple people, and it's easy to over-look the shorter posts.

Regarding your last response to me (post #25) -- please forgive my thick-headedness, but you still haven't clarified: Jesus is God?

 

There is no separate Deity. there is only One Eternal Being God, but in the Godhead, we are told in the Bible, that there are Three separate Person's, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but These Three are one in essence. What you are saying is Modalism, where the One Person God, appears as "Father", "Son" and "Holy Spirit", as different "roles" played by the same Person, like an actor who plays three parts. This is very dangerous and against what the Bible actually teaches.

 

Good luck with our friend. For him to believe you would cause his whole house of cards to collapse. It's not what actually is, but what Jason says it is. I had it out with him concerning the one truth of what it means to keep kosher.

 

15 “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. 16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another helper who will be with you forever. 17 That helper is the Spirit of Truth. (The Holy Spirit) The world cannot accept him, because it doesn’t see or know him. You know him, because he lives with you and will be in you.

The Holy Spirit, a distinct separate entity part of the Triune Godhead which has been taught by the Universal Christian Church from the beginning. Sorry, it took Luther 1500 years to come up with his version of things and now your version some 500 years down the line from that is off the rails too.

 

You have some out of one "false teaching", and into another one on the God of the Holy Bible, Whom you deny is a Trinity or Persons, and believe in Unitarianism, or Modalism? Which is it?

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Perhaps you are following the "false teachings"? Yes, that's it. Now we go on to ask which one of the thousands of false teachings out there you have grabbed on to?