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As always sad for your loss.

 

Neither of these references speak about suicide.

The first reference is about fornicating with harlots.

The second is about the work a person does and the motivation for that work.

YOU didn't prove suicide is a sin.

YOU just showed how to take verses out of context and make them into what you desire.

Try again.

 

Thanks...

...FAL, I know that in some areas of doctrine and theology, we are at opposite ends of the earth. However, I am sure of one thing; we will be in eternity together, and both of us will be enlightened as to our errors in Scritpural interpretations while on earth. :thumbsup:

I just pray that nothing I say, or you say, will take us before God with the blood of others on our hands. :tear:

 

Suicide is self-murder.

Galatians 5:19 (KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

:laugh::laugh::laugh: So you believe suicide is not sin and is of God?

 

Yes I agree.

 

The word you consider "murder" means to be slain.

It is one who is a slayer that is a murderer.

One does not "murder" them self. "Self-murder" is an attempt by some to construct a biblical foundation that is not available.

Paul said, "If I give my body... and have not love..." Paul wasn't saying if someone takes my body and abuses it in the fire. Paul was stating that if HE had the power and could in effect commit suicide... Certainly, Paul understood the Scriptures held no specific condemnation of suicide and who held the power over all death and life.

PLEASE, Do make more posts to show the fallacy of suicide being a sin.

Show plainly where the Scriptures state, "Thou shalt not take your own life."

For if Christ holds the keys of life and death, I would like to know what mere mortal has such power to rip the keys from HIS grip.

 

Again, you are attempting to avoid proving your statement.

I have made NO statement as to whether I believe or do not believe that suicide is a sin.

YOU made the statement.

YOU are obliged to prove the statement is not false.

I am not obliged to do more than disprove you statement.

That I can disprove your posts is no indicator of what I personally believe.

 

You have taken these Scriptures out of context.
The second set in chapter three is addressed to a group, as the pronouns are all in the plural. Therefore it is addressing the church at Corinth as a whole.
The body, in chapter 6, does not refer to the physical body per se. In other words if I chop off my finger am I chopping off part of the Holy Spirit also?? The Holy Spirit does not live in my finger. There are principles in the Bible about cleanliness and taking care of our body, but this verse is not one of them.
The temple is not the human heart that beats and circulates the blood nor any other of the organs. It is the soul or mind. At conversion the Holy Spirit comes in some inexplicable way and unites with our spirit giving us spiritual life. Therefore one can say (not just on an intellectual basis, but on a real personal basis):
God's Spirit bears witness with my spirit that I am a child of God.

 

It is tragic when anyone takes their life. It seems to be particularly tragic when it happens to one so young. My heart goes out to the family.

The worst tragedy of all is the refusal of some Christians, including some pastors, to believe that mental illness exists. May God have mercy on these people.

 

Quote Originally Posted by Steadfast Fred:
"When it is obvious sin, I am not afraid to say so."

Quote Originally Posted by freeatlast:
"The young man took his own life because of his own sin, not what someone says."

We are still waiting for FAL and Fred to prove by Scriptures suicide is a sin.

This was not stated as an assumption on their part but a fact; therefore, it needs to be validated by Scriptural proof.

If the proof does not exist, then their statement isn't fact but mere assumption.

 

So do you believe suicide is sin or not?

 

Is suicide sin?

 

Again, what I believe is not the issue.

YOU were the one that claimed suicide was a sin.

YOU have been challenged to back up the claim with Scriptural proof.

 

Is suicide sin?

 

Again, what I believe is not the issue.

YOU were the one that claimed suicide was a sin.

YOU have been challenged to back up the claim with Scriptural proof.

 

It is quite evident who is full of hatred.
... and it isn't me, nor freeatlast.

 

Jesus would probably say...

Matthew 15:18 (KJV) But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.